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Subject: RE: What is the current status of WSIF
From: "Sandip Prashar" <sandip_prashar () msn ! com>
Date: 2007-06-13 3:10:16
Message-ID: BAY107-F105EB8CECB0BA2EEA90C00F0180 () phx ! gbl
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<html><div style='background-color:'><P>When building the WSIF client for Websphere, \
remember to use WSIF 2.0 not the IBM one, and use this:</P> \
<P>WSIFPluggableProviders.overrideDefaultProvider("<A \
href="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/soap/">http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/wsdl/soap/</A>", \
new WSIFDynamicProvider_ApacheAxis());</P> <P>IBM WSIF doesn't provide this \
WSIFDynamicProvider_ApacheAxis() .</P> <P>Sandip</P>
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From: <I>"Todd Eisemann" <Todd.Eisemann@chordiant.com></I><BR>Reply-To: \
<I>wsif-user@ws.apache.org</I><BR>To: \
<I><wsif-user@ws.apache.org></I><BR>Subject: <I>RE: What is the current status \
of WSIF</I><BR>Date: <I>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:56:27 -0700</I><BR><BR> <META \
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; \
COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hello Doug</SPAN></FONT></P> <P \
class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; \
COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT \
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: \
Arial">I am using WAS 6.1.0.5 (and I think we even had the problems on \
earlier release of WAS, such as was 6.0)</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT \
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: \
Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy \
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In the was \
runtime jar (in the plugin directoy), you will find all of the WSIF classes – with \
different implementation than WSIF 2.0</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT \
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: \
Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy \
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The IBM \
implementation of WSIFServiceImpl.getPort() is really slow – especially the protected \
method setupTypeMappings() is horrendous, especially, when you have a WSDL that has \
lots of XSD data types defined. </SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT \
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: \
Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy \
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hope that \
helps</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN \
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> \
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; \
FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma \
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Jackson, Douglas \
[mailto:djackso2@ugs.com] <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> \
Tuesday, June 12, 2007 1:33 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> \
wsif-user@ws.apache.org<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: \
What is the current status of WSIF</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT \
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P> \
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; \
COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi!</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT \
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: \
Arial">We are using WSIF on Websphere, and are not aware of any problems – can \
you</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN \
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">elaborate on which version \
you are seeing these problems?</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial \
color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: \
Arial">-Doug.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy \
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: \
Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; \
FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma \
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Todd Eisemann \
[mailto:Todd.Eisemann@chordiant.com] <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: \
bold">Sen</SPAN></B><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">t:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, June \
12, 2007 12:11 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> \
wsif-user@ws.apache.org<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: \
What is the current status of WSIF</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT \
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P> \
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; \
COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">HI all</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT \
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: \
Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy \
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Just a quick \
opinion.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy \
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR>We have \
been using WSIF for some web service and lots of POJO bound invocations. It works \
well… Things have gone pretty well. I’d love to see WSIF move up to a \
newer WSDL4J parser.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy \
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: \
Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy \
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">He have found a \
few thread sync problems in WSIF and have been able to work around \
those.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN \
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P \
class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; \
COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">HOWEVER, we have found that IBM WebSphere runtime \
jar ALSO includes a very different version of WSIF. The IBM version has horrible \
performance and lots of thread synchronization problems. This has caused us no end of \
pain. In WebSphere, you cannot work the class path to use Apache \
WSIF.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN \
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P \
class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; \
COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Therefore, if you plan to use WSIF in WebSphere, I \
believe you will have problems. However, if you use it anywhere else, I believe you \
will find it to be a pleasant experience.</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT \
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: \
Arial"><BR>Thanks</SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy \
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: \
Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; \
FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma \
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> sambit kumar dikshit \
[mailto:sambit.dikshit@apple.com] <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: \
bold">Sen</SPAN></B><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">t:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, June \
12, 2007 9:57 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> \
wsif-user@ws.apache.org<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: \
What is the current status of WSIF</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT \
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P> \
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: \
12pt">Hi Ahmet,</SPAN></FONT></P> <DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: \
12pt"> I could see the future is bright. We have been using it for a \
while and successfully built a service invocation framework using WSIF and extending \
some of the features. It is a really good stuff where you want to invoke various \
types of services running on different protocol e.g http, soap, jms, POJO, EJB \
etc. </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV>
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12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV> <DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: \
12pt">Regards</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: \
12pt">-Sambit </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: \
12pt">On Jun 12, 2007, at 7:40 AM, Ahmet Emre wrote:</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV> <P \
class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN \
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times \
New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial \
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We are starting to use some \
web services first time in our company. There were few web service calls we had \
developed in the past and we were using WSIF. Now we do expect more and more web \
service calls being made and we do expect web services becoming an important part of \
the architecture in a year or so.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN \
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">How do you guys see WSIF in the future? \
In order to invoke Web Services do you believe WSIF is the way to go? Or would you \
say WSIF is legacy and focus on something else? As I researched little bit, WSIF \
community is not very active anymore. There are many other things going on and it \
looks like Service Component Artchitecture (SCA) and some Eclipse Web Tools Platform \
(WTP) are the ones to consider first.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=Arial \
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks for sharing your \
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