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From:       Michel NoSpam <michel.tempo () yahoo ! fr>
Date:       2009-11-05 11:23:49
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Thanks a lot for this information, it confirms that we just realyzed: no PPP trace \
seen so sample point is just above .  
I guess that there is some flow control between TCP/IP and PPP layers (We saw \
different behaviour with same windows stack but different modem) Is it possible to \
capture such flow control with winpcap?


--- En date de : Mer 4.11.09, Gianluca Varenni <gianluca.varenni@cacetech.com> a \
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De: Gianluca Varenni <gianluca.varenni@cacetech.com>
Objet: Re: [Winpcap-users] acquisition position
À: winpcap-users@winpcap.org
Date: Mercredi 4 Novembre 2009, 16h47



The traffic is captured between the IP stack and PPP, although you will also see some \
PPP-specific packets related to the PPP negotiation).  
Hope this helps
GV

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To: winpcap-users@winpcap.org 
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Winpcap-users] acquisition position





Adapter for generic dialup and VPN capture

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De: Gianluca Varenni <gianluca.varenni@cacetech.com>
Objet: Re: [Winpcap-users] acquisition position
À: winpcap-users@winpcap.org
Date: Mardi 3 Novembre 2009, 17h39



What's the name and description of the adapter that you are capturing from in \
wireshark?  
 

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From: Michel NoSpam 
To: winpcap-users@winpcap.org 
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Winpcap-users] acquisition position






I am using Wireshark on Windows XP professionnal SP2

--- En date de : Mar 3.11.09, Gianluca Varenni <gianluca.varenni@cacetech.com> a \
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De: Gianluca Varenni <gianluca.varenni@cacetech.com>
Objet: Re: [Winpcap-users] acquisition position
À: winpcap-users@winpcap.org
Date: Mardi 3 Novembre 2009, 16h35





What is the name and description of the adapter you are capturing from? Which \
operating system?  
Have a nice day
GV

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From: Michel NoSpam 
To: winpcap-users@winpcap.org 
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 12:59 AM
Subject: [Winpcap-users] acquisition position






Hello, 

 
I would to know a which level Wireshark/Winpcap samples the IP packets.
I use a mobile phone as a modem (DUN). A flow control permits to adjust the data flow \
from the PC to the modem.

We have a downlink and a uplink data flow.
Because of this flow control, we can see that the downlink TCP data are not \
acknowledge immediately.

I would like to know where wireshark samples the data?
When the data leave the ipstack or when the data leave the PC?
Can I configure wireshark/winpcap to sample the packet a layer 3?
(I am affraid it could have some important delay between layer3 -> layer 2 -> layer \
1)

(stack ip -> PPP -> USB -> modem) 


Thanks a lot. 
Michel




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<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: \
inherit;"><DIV>Thanks a lot for this information, it confirms that we just realyzed: \
no PPP trace seen so sample point is just above .</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I guess that there is some flow control between TCP/IP and PPP layers (We saw \
different behaviour with same windows&nbsp;stack but different modem)</DIV> <DIV>Is \
it possible to&nbsp;capture such flow control with winpcap?</DIV> <DIV><BR><BR>--- En \
date de&nbsp;: <B>Mer 4.11.09, Gianluca Varenni \
<I>&lt;gianluca.varenni@cacetech.com&gt;</I></B> a écrit&nbsp;:<BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE \
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px \
solid"><BR>De: Gianluca Varenni &lt;gianluca.varenni@cacetech.com&gt;<BR>Objet: Re: \
[Winpcap-users] acquisition position<BR>À: winpcap-users@winpcap.org<BR>Date: \
Mercredi 4 Novembre 2009, 16h47<BR><BR> <DIV id=yiv1158937811>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The traffic is captured between the IP stack and PPP, although you \
will also see some PPP-specific packets related to the PPP negotiation).</FONT></DIV> \
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Hope this helps</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>GV</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; \
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt \
arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: \
10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A title=michel.tempo@yahoo.fr \
href="http://fr.mc246.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=michel.tempo@yahoo.fr" \
target=_blank rel=nofollow ymailto="mailto:michel.tempo@yahoo.fr">Michel NoSpam</A> \
</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=winpcap-users@winpcap.org \
href="http://fr.mc246.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=winpcap-users@winpcap.org" \
target=_blank rel=nofollow \
ymailto="mailto:winpcap-users@winpcap.org">winpcap-users@winpcap.org</A> </DIV> <DIV \
style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:25 AM</DIV> \
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Winpcap-users] acquisition \
position</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT \
size=2></FONT><BR></DIV> <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0>
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<TD vAlign=top>Adapter for generic dialup and VPN capture<BR><BR>--- En date \
de&nbsp;: <B>Mar 3.11.09, Gianluca Varenni <I>&lt;<A \
href="http://fr.mc246.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gianluca.varenni@cacetech.com" \
target=_blank rel=nofollow \
ymailto="mailto:gianluca.varenni@cacetech.com">gianluca.varenni@cacetech.com</A>&gt;</I></B> \
a écrit&nbsp;:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; \
BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>De: Gianluca Varenni &lt;<A \
href="http://fr.mc246.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gianluca.varenni@cacetech.com" \
target=_blank rel=nofollow \
ymailto="mailto:gianluca.varenni@cacetech.com">gianluca.varenni@cacetech.com</A>&gt;<BR>Objet: \
Re: [Winpcap-users] acquisition position<BR>À: <A \
href="http://fr.mc246.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=winpcap-users@winpcap.org" \
target=_blank rel=nofollow \
ymailto="mailto:winpcap-users@winpcap.org">winpcap-users@winpcap.org</A><BR>Date: \
Mardi 3 Novembre 2009, 17h39<BR><BR> <DIV id=yiv176557426>
<DIV><FONT size=2>What's the name and description of the adapter that you are \
capturing from in wireshark?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; \
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt \
arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: \
10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A title=michel.tempo@yahoo.fr \
href="http://fr.mc246.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=michel.tempo@yahoo.fr" \
target=_blank rel=nofollow>Michel NoSpam</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt \
arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=winpcap-users@winpcap.org \
href="http://fr.mc246.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=winpcap-users@winpcap.org" \
target=_blank rel=nofollow>winpcap-users@winpcap.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: \
10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 03, 2009 7:44 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: \
10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Winpcap-users] acquisition position</DIV> \
<DIV><BR></DIV> <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top>
<DIV>I am using Wireshark on Windows XP professionnal SP2<BR><BR>--- En date \
de&nbsp;: <B>Mar 3.11.09, Gianluca Varenni <I>&lt;<A \
href="http://fr.mc246.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gianluca.varenni@cacetech.com" \
target=_blank rel=nofollow>gianluca.varenni@cacetech.com</A>&gt;</I></B> a \
écrit&nbsp;:<BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; \
BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>De: Gianluca Varenni &lt;<A \
href="http://fr.mc246.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gianluca.varenni@cacetech.com" \
target=_blank rel=nofollow>gianluca.varenni@cacetech.com</A>&gt;<BR>Objet: Re: \
[Winpcap-users] acquisition position<BR>À: <A \
href="http://fr.mc246.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=winpcap-users@winpcap.org" \
target=_blank rel=nofollow>winpcap-users@winpcap.org</A><BR>Date: Mardi 3 Novembre \
2009, 16h35<BR><BR> <DIV id=yiv136815437>
<STYLE></STYLE>

<DIV><FONT size=2>What is the name and description of the adapter you are capturing \
from? Which operating system?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Have a nice day</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>GV</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; \
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt \
arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: \
10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A title=michel.tempo@yahoo.fr \
href="http://fr.mc246.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=michel.tempo@yahoo.fr" \
target=_blank rel=nofollow>Michel NoSpam</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt \
arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=winpcap-users@winpcap.org \
href="http://fr.mc246.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=winpcap-users@winpcap.org" \
target=_blank rel=nofollow>winpcap-users@winpcap.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: \
10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 03, 2009 12:59 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: \
10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Winpcap-users] acquisition position</DIV> <DIV><FONT \
size=2></FONT><BR></DIV> <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0>
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<TD vAlign=top>
<DIV>Hello, </DIV>
<DIV><BR>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I would to know a which level Wireshark/Winpcap samples the IP packets.<BR>I use \
a mobile phone as a modem (DUN). A flow control permits to adjust the data flow from \
the PC to the modem.</DIV> <DIV><BR>We have a downlink and a uplink data flow.</DIV>
<DIV>Because of this flow control, we can see that the downlink TCP data are not \
acknowledge immediately.<BR></DIV> <DIV>I would like to know where wireshark samples \
the data?</DIV> <DIV>When the data leave the ipstack or when the data leave the \
PC?</DIV> <DIV>Can I configure wireshark/winpcap to sample the packet a layer \
3?</DIV> <DIV>(I am affraid it could have some important delay between layer3 -&gt; \
layer 2 -&gt; layer 1)</DIV> <DIV><BR>(stack ip -&gt; PPP -&gt;&nbsp;USB -&gt; \
modem)&nbsp;<BR></DIV> <DIV><BR>Thanks a \
lot.&nbsp;<BR>Michel</DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR> <DIV>
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