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From: Michael_Schönitzer <michael.schoenitzer () wikimedia ! de>
Date: 2020-11-05 14:39:55
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Hi,
Am Do., 5. Nov. 2020 um 12:00 Uhr schrieb Derk-Jan Hartman <
d.j.hartman+wmf_ml@gmail.com>:
> > The new extension will disable itself if RefTooltips is used.
>
> Like completely ? So when this goes live, Page Previews will disable
> itself completely on English wikipedia, because it has a reftooltips
> enabled by default ?
>
No, while there is only one option to turn Page and Reference Previews
together on and off in the user settings, the "self disabling feature" is
split up in two: if reftooltips is enabled the Reference Previews of this
extensions will not show up and independently if one of the popular page
preview-gadgets is enabled, the Page Previews won't show up (as the current
status quo). So the behaviour of Page Previews won't change. Also this
mechanism works on a per user level.
Thanks for asking, we will make sure this is more clear in the
upcoming announcement, when we deploy it.
Cheers,
Michael
>
> DJ
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 10:54 AM Michael Schönitzer <
> michael.schoenitzer@wikimedia.de> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> A new feature called Reference Previews [1] was introduced as a beta
>> feature last year. After more than a year of testing, bug fixing and other
>> improvements it will soon leave the beta state in the first wikis, enabling
>> it by default for all users including readers. New features like this are
>> deployed in multiple batches, to ensure everything runs smoothly.
>> Therefore, we are currently looking for a few small or medium-sized wikis
>> that are interested in being among the first to gain the new feature.
>>
>> If your community is interested, please reach out to me on my discussion
>> page or via email.
>>
>> The feature shows you references in a small popup when you hover over the
>> reference number in square brackets. This way you can look up a reference
>> without jumping down to the bottom of the page. The feature is part of the
>> MediaWiki Popups extension [2], which is also used for the Page Previews
>> feature [3]. Both features can be turned on and off together by the user.
>>
>> Several wikis have a gadget called "RefTooltips" to provide the same
>> functionality [4]. The new extension will disable itself if RefTooltips is
>> used. This way, it is up to the users and communities to decide if they
>> want to disable the gadget in favor of the new feature.
>>
>> Reference Previews originated from a wish from the German-speaking wiki
>> community and was developed collaboratively by Wikimedia Deutschland the
>> Wikimedia Foundation. If you'd like to know more about this feature, please
>> visit the project page.[1]
>>
>> For the Technical Wishes team,
>>
>> Michael Schönitzer
>>
>> 1:
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/ReferencePreviews
>>
>> 2: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Popups
>>
>> 3: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Page_Previews
>>
>> 4: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T234204#6244041
>>
>>
>> --
>> *M. F. Schönitzer*
>> Community Communication
>>
>> Wikimedia Deutschland e. V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin
>>
>> Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0
>>
>> https://wikimedia.de
>>
>> Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der
>> Menschheit teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei!
>>
>> https://spenden.wikimedia.de
>>
>> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
>> sum of all knowledge. Help us to achieve our vision!
>>
>> https://spenden.wikimedia.de
>>
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>> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter
>> der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für
>> Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
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Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0
https://wikimedia.de
Unsere Vision ist eine Welt, in der alle Menschen am Wissen der Menschheit
teilhaben, es nutzen und mehren können. Helfen Sie uns dabei!
https://spenden.wikimedia.de
Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
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https://spenden.wikimedia.de
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<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi,</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" \
class="gmail_attr">Am Do., 5. Nov. 2020 um 12:00 Uhr schrieb Derk-Jan Hartman <<a \
href="mailto:d.j.hartman%2Bwmf_ml@gmail.com">d.j.hartman+wmf_ml@gmail.com</a>>:<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">> <span \
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial;font-size:14.6667px;white-space:pre-wrap">The \
new extension will disable itself if RefTooltips is used.</span></div><div \
dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial;font-size:14.6667px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><span \
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial;font-size:14.6667px;white-space:pre-wrap">Like \
completely ? So when this goes live, Page Previews will disable itself completely on \
English wikipedia, because it has a reftooltips enabled by default \
?</span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>No, while there is only one \
option to turn Page and Reference Previews together on and off in the user settings, \
the "self disabling feature" is split up in two: if reftooltips is \
enabled the Reference Previews of this extensions will not show up and independently \
if one of the popular page preview-gadgets is enabled, the Page Previews won't \
show up (as the current status quo). So the behaviour of Page Previews won't \
change. Also this mechanism works on a per user \
level.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for asking, we will make sure this is more \
clear in the upcoming announcement, when we deploy \
it.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div> Michael</div><div> \
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px \
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><span \
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial;font-size:14.6667px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><span \
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial;font-size:14.6667px;white-space:pre-wrap">DJ</span></div></div><br><div \
class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 10:54 AM \
Michael Schönitzer <<a href="mailto:michael.schoenitzer@wikimedia.de" \
target="_blank">michael.schoenitzer@wikimedia.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><span \
id="gmail-m_2717543660404126389gmail-m_-9087353224402056043gmail-docs-internal-guid-bcdd57e0-7fff-aa31-4b68-fb9d622ee23b"><p \
dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span \
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent; \
font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Hello,</span></p><br><p \
dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span \
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent; \
font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">A \
new feature called Reference Previews [1] was introduced as a beta feature last year. \
After more than a year of testing, bug fixing and other improvements it will soon \
leave the beta state in the first wikis, enabling it by default for all users \
including readers. New features like this are deployed in multiple batches, to ensure \
everything runs smoothly. Therefore, we are currently looking for a few small or \
medium-sized wikis that are interested in being among the first to gain the new \
feature.</span></p><p dir="ltr" \
style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span \
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent; \
font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">If \
your community is interested, please reach out to me on my discussion page or via \
email.</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" \
style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span \
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent; \
font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">The \
feature shows you references in a small popup when you hover over the reference \
number in square brackets. This way you can look up a reference without jumping down \
to the bottom of the page. The feature is part of the MediaWiki Popups extension [2], \
which is also used for the Page Previews feature [3]. Both features can be turned on \
and off together by the user.</span></p><p dir="ltr" \
style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span \
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent; \
font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Several \
wikis have a gadget called "RefTooltips" to provide the same functionality [4]. The \
new extension will disable itself if RefTooltips is used. This way, it is up to the \
users and communities to decide if they want to disable the gadget in favor of the \
new feature.</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" \
style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span \
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent; \
font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Reference \
Previews originated from a wish from the German-speaking wiki community and was \
developed collaboratively by Wikimedia Deutschland the Wikimedia Foundation. If \
you'd like to know more about this feature, please visit the project \
page.[1]</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" \
style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span \
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent; \
font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">For \
the Technical Wishes team,</span></p><p dir="ltr" \
style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span \
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent; \
font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Michael \
Schönitzer</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" \
style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span \
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent; \
font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">1: \
<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/ReferencePreviews" \
target="_blank">https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WMDE_Technical_Wishes/ReferencePreviews</a></span></p><p \
dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span \
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent; \
font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">2: \
<a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Popups" \
target="_blank">https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Popups</a></span></p><p \
dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span \
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent; \
font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">3: \
<a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Page_Previews" \
target="_blank">https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Page_Previews</a></span></p><p \
dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span \
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent; \
font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">4: \
</span><a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T234204#6244041" \
style="text-decoration-line:none" target="_blank"><span \
style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;background-color:transparent;font-variant-nume \
ric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;text-decoration-line:underline;vertical-alig \
n:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T234204#6244041</span></a></p><br></span><div><br></div>-- \
<br><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font \
size="1"><b>M. F. Schönitzer</b></font></div><div><span><span \
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