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Date: 2020-10-21 21:17:27
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The minutes from TechCom's triage meeting on 21 October 2020.

Present: Dan A, Tim S, Timo T.
Should npm packages maintained by Wikimedia be scoped or unscoped?

   -

   https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239742
   -

   NL: Still in inbox
   -

   TT: Seems companies do this both ways at times. Might not need a strict
   policy.
   -

   TS: Delegate to FSG?
   -

   TT: I'll ask Volker to bring it up in the next meeting.
   -

   Moved to Watching.

RFC: Bump Firefox version in basic support to 3.6 or newer

   -

   https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262946
   -

   Moved to Last Call.

RFC: PHP microservice for containerized shell execution

   -

   https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T260330
   -

   Development is going right along. The basics have been figured out.
   -

   Still room for input on what the public interface of the MW service
   class would look like, and how e.g. an admin would write or generate the
   configuration for their Shellbox instance for the specific extensions th=
ey
   have  (E.g. Score requires additional commands to be registered  in the
   service).
   -

   Currently in P4. We should hear from e.g. Fandom and BlueSpice with any
   concerns to consider, or a confident signal that they're happy with this=
 as
   it stands.

Next week IRC office hours

No IRC discussion scheduled for next week.

You can also find our meeting minutes at
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Technical_Committee/Minutes

If you prefer you can subscribe to our newsletter here

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Newsletter:TechCom_Radar

-- Timo

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 6:12 PM Niklas Laxstr=C3=B6m <niklas.laxstrom@gmail=
.com>
wrote:

> This is the weekly TechCom board review in preparation of our meeting on
> Wednesday. If there are additional topics for TechCom to review, please l=
et
> us know by replying to this email. However, please keep discussion about
> individual RFCs to the Phabricator tickets.
>
> Activity since Monday 2020-10-15 on the following boards:
>
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/techcom/
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/techcom-rfc/
>
> Committee inbox:
>
>    - T239742 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239742> Should npm
>    packages maintained by Wikimedia be scoped or unscoped?
>       - Still in inbox
>
> Committee board activity:
>
>    - T263904 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263904> Are traits part
>    of the stable interface?
>       - Daniel moved to in progress (see last weeks email thread)
>
> New RFCs: (none)
>
> Phase progression:
>
>    - T262946 Bump Firefox version in basic support to 3.6 or newer
>    - P3 -> P4: ready to go on last call
>
> IRC meeting request: (none)
>
> Other RFC activity:
>
>    - T119173 RFC: Discourage use of MySQL's ENUM type
>       - Concerns about removing existing uses, but it doesn't seem
>       necessary to remove them
>
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<div dir="ltr">The \
minutes from TechCom&#39;s triage meeting on 21 October 2020. Present: \
Dan A, Tim S, Timo T.<h2 dir="ltr" \
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MS&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-style:norm \
al;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Should \
npm packages maintained by Wikimedia be scoped or unscoped?</h2><ul \
style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" \
style="list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transp \
arent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transpar \
ent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><a \
href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239742" \
target="_blank">https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239742</a> \
</li><li dir="ltr" \
style="list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transp \
arent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">NL: \
Still in inbox</li><li dir="ltr" \
style="list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transp \
arent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">TT: \
Seems companies do this both ways at times. Might not need a strict \
policy.</li><li dir="ltr" \
style="list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transp \
arent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">TS: \
Delegate to FSG?</li><li dir="ltr" \
style="list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transp \
arent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">TT: \
I&#39;ll ask Volker to bring it up in the next meeting.</li><li \
dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-co \
lor:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Moved \
to Watching.</li></ul><h2 dir="ltr" \
style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:10pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span \
style="font-family:&quot;Trebuchet \
MS&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-style:norm \
al;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">RFC: \
Bump Firefox version in basic support to 3.6 or newer</h2><ul \
style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" \
style="list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transp \
arent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transpar \
ent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><a \
href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262946" \
target="_blank">https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262946</a></li><li \
dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-co \
lor:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Moved \
to Last Call.</li></ul><h2 dir="ltr" \
style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:10pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span \
style="font-family:&quot;Trebuchet \
MS&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-style:norm \
al;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">RFC: \
PHP microservice for containerized shell execution</h2><ul \
style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" \
style="list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transp \
arent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(17,85,204);background-color:transpar \
ent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><a \
href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T260330" \
target="_blank">https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T260330</a> \
</li><li dir="ltr" \
style="list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transp \
arent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Development \
is going right along. The basics have been figured out.</li><li \
dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-co \
lor:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Still \
room for input on what the public interface of the MW service class would look like, \
and how e.g. an admin would write or generate the configuration for their Shellbox \
instance for the specific extensions they have (E.g. Score requires additional \
commands to be registered in the service).</li><li dir="ltr" \
style="list-style-type:disc;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transp \
arent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Currently \
in P4. We should hear from e.g. Fandom and BlueSpice with any concerns to consider, \
or a confident signal that they&#39;re happy with this as it \
stands.</li></ul><h2 dir="ltr" \
style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:10pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span \
style="font-family:&quot;Trebuchet \
MS&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-style:norm \
al;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Next \
week IRC office hours</h2>No \
IRC discussion scheduled for next week. You \
can also find our meeting minutes at<a> </a><div><a \
href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Technical_Committee/Minutes" \
target="_blank">https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Technical_Committee/Minutes</a></div><div> </div>If \
you prefer you can subscribe to our newsletter here <a \
href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Newsletter:TechCom_Radar" \
target="_blank">https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Newsletter:TechCom_Radar</a> -- \
Timo </div> <div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On \
Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 6:12 PM Niklas Laxström &lt;<a \
href="mailto:niklas.laxstrom@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">niklas.laxstrom@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote: </div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>This is the weekly TechCom \
board review in preparation of our meeting on Wednesday. If there are additional \
topics for TechCom to review, please let us know by replying to this email. However, \
please keep discussion about individual RFCs to the Phabricator tickets. 
</div><div>
Activity since Monday 2020-10-15 on the following boards:
<a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/techcom/" \
target="_blank">https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/techcom/</a> <a \
href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/techcom-rfc/" \
target="_blank">https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/techcom-rfc/</a> \
Committee inbox: 
<ul><li><a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239742" \
target="_blank">T239742</a> Should npm packages maintained by Wikimedia be scoped or \
unscoped?</li><ul><li>Still in inbox</li></ul></ul> Committee board activity:

<ul><li><a href="https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263904" \
target="_blank">T263904</a> Are traits part of the stable \
interface?</li><ul><li>Daniel moved to in progress (see last weeks email \
thread)</li></ul></ul> New RFCs: (none)
Phase progression:

<ul><li>T262946 Bump Firefox version in basic support to 3.6 or \
newer </li><ul><li>P3 -&gt; P4: ready to go on last call</li></ul></ul> IRC \
meeting request: (none) Other RFC activity:

<ul><li>T119173 RFC: Discourage use of MySQL&#39;s ENUM type</li><ul><li>Concerns \
about removing existing uses, but it doesn&#39;t seem necessary to remove \
them</li></ul></ul></div></div> _______________________________________________ 
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