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Subject:    Re: [Wikitech-l] There are maps for wikivoyage?
From:       Kai Krueger <kakrueger () gmail ! com>
Date:       2012-11-30 4:43:13
Message-ID: 1354250592993-4990559.post () n6 ! nabble ! com
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Hello,

from your original email it isn't entirely clear if you are referring to the
software stack or the map tile serving provider, but given the replies I am
assuming mostly the latter.

A good number of Wikipedia language sites now include decent maps directly
accessible from the article either provided through the WikiMiniAtlas[4]
(like in en.wiki) or through the osm-gadget[3] (like in de.wiki) or even
both (like in es.wiki). Either solution would presumably be available to
wikivoyage as well.

The map tiles displayed in WikiMiniAtlas or osm-gadget both are served from
the toolserver.org infrastructure and are based on OpenStreetMap data.

The toolserver tileserver provides a variety of different map styles[1],
including the "default OpenStreetMap" style, a hike and bike map style, a
black and white style and a few others. It also includes map styles rendered
in 200+ different languages (where the data is available in OSM)[2],
although that is still somewhat experimental. The WikiMiniAtlas also uses
client side rendering for high zoom levels, transferring the raw mapdata in
geojson and then rendering it in the browser.

Given that the server currently serves maps in production for en.wiki,
es.wiki, ru.wiki, de.wiki and a bunch more, my guess would be it probably
can also handle wikivoyage, although I have no idea what volume wikivoyage
would generate.

Unfortunately, given that the toolserver tileserver currently has no
redundancy (it is a single server) and it is also used as a tool / dev
server, there has been the odd outage in the past. But given that it is used
in production in wikipedia and I haven't heard of any complaints so far, it
is hopefully not too bad.

You could probably (after asking) also use the tile serving infrastructure
provided by the OSMF. The load generated from all of the wikipedias is
currently less than about 10% of tile traffic that osm.org serves, last I
have seen. So it shouldn't effect their servers adversely, and it has been
pretty reliable.

Or, as Tomasz suggests, you can wait till things migrate to WMF hosted
(redundant?) servers, which will hopefully not be too long anymore.

Kai

[1] http://toolserver.org/~osm/styles/
[2] http://toolserver.org/~osm/locale/
[3]
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProjekt_Georeferenzierung/Anwendungen/OpenStreetMap/en
 [4] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiMiniAtlas





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