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Subject:    Re: [Wikipedia-l] Honorifics in many Wikipedia articles
From:       "M. Williamson" <node.ue () gmail ! com>
Date:       2010-12-24 23:42:04
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2010/12/23 Don Gihan Devapriya <gihan.devapriya@gmail.com>:
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> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Fred Bauder <fredbaud@fairpoint.net> wrote:
>
>> > On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Fred Bauder <fredbaud@fairpoint.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >>> Dear Sir,
>> >>>
>> >>> I have read about the Wikipedia rules. After adding articles in it, i
>> >>> face many problems, which can be explained / solved in detail by
>> >>> Wikipedia. Thanks. I have also read that "honorifics" i.e. Hazrat,
>> >>> Khawaja, SAW, RA are not allowed in Wikipedia. But i have seen the
>> >>> same
>> >>> are used frequently in many other Wikipedia articles as you can see in
>> >>> following two articles:
>> >>>
>> >>> 1) Universal Sufi Silsila
>> >>> 2) Pir Meher Ali Shah
>> >>>
>> >>> Sir, please help me if there is any way to add these "honorifics" in
>> >>> article.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best regards,
>> >>> M. Hussain
>> >>
>> >> I'm not sure we have a rule against honorifics, for example, Hajji is
>> >> used in the article Hazrat Ali and even has it's own article:
>> >> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Hajji Maybe you could
>> >> use
>> >> that treatment for Hazrat, Khawaja, SAW, RA all of which I, and others,
>> >> I'm sure, would be interested in knowing the meaning of.
>> >>
>> >> Fred
>> >>
>> >> User:Fred Bauder
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > See
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOS:HONORIFIC
>> > and
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:PBUH
>> > for the English Wikipedia's guidelines.
>> >
>> > Any discussion about changing the guidelines, should start at the
>> > guideline's talkpages. Any articles which don't currently follow the
>> > recommended style, can be updated.
>> >
>> > Hope that helps.
>> > - Quiddity
>>
>> Changing the title of the article "Muhammad" to "Hazrat Muhammad" or
>> using the honorific in the introduction to the article would be
>> inappropriate. However, as with "PBUH" a section in the article
>> "Muhammad" could address those usages and contain links to them. The
>> basic principle is to maintain neutrality; however, as specific instances
>> are considered common sense needs to be the guide. Mother Teresa, an
>> Albanian Christian, is commonly known by that name worldwide. Her actual
>> name, Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu, is obscure.
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> User:Fred Bauder
>>
>>
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