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Subject:    Re: [WikiEN-l] WikiEN-l Digest, Vol 138, Issue 7
From:       R a N d Y G a L a T i <randygalati () hotmail ! com>
Date:       2015-03-29 13:53:18
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> 1. Re: Privacy Study Looking for Volunteers (James Alexander)
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> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2015 05:38:10 -0700
> From: James Alexander <jalexander@wikimedia.org>
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> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Privacy Study Looking for Volunteers
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> The idea of the IP being more private in the history/ public logs (for
> example a unique hash so that you know it's "an IP" but not where/what IP"
> ) is one that I know has been discussed and is desired by a good number
> within the foundation including within legal. I'll try to look for the
> phabricator task about it tomorrow. I think that's something that is likely
> to happen, it isn't easy though and requires a fair number of resources to
> be pointed at it to get it done so it's a question of priorities and
> convincing those who decide those things that it should be higher. I
> believe it's something, privacy wise, that legal would really like.
> 
> I think it is unlikely in the short to medium term, however, to get rid of
> the IPs in the backend (in server logs and in the checkuser system for
> example) because the replacements just aren't there. I've spent a good
> amount of time thinking of a way to make the checkuser system as usable as
> necessary without revealing IPs for example (including a consultant who
> looked a lot but didn't really come up with anything we didn't know
> already). I think it's doable, but it would be a very difficult and long
> design process and I think it's unlikely in the near future.
> 
> James Alexander
> Community Advocacy
> Wikimedia Foundation
> (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur
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> > On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 10:17 PM, Kyanos <someanon126@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > I don't believe a different license is needed. CC licenses can be used for
> > anonymous works: The author is not given and does not have to be credited,
> > but everything else (attribution of the work and share-alike) would stay
> > the same. So a change in the terms of use to the effect of, "Unregistered
> > edits are considered to have no named author," would be sufficient.
> > 
> > Kyanos
> > 
> > > On 03/27/2015 06:41 AM, WereSpielChequers wrote:
> > > 
> > > Perhaps we should move to a different licensing model for future IP
> > > edits. CC0 for IP edits would be a more sensible license for edits by an IP
> > > where in many cases no-one could attribute the edit to the individual who
> > > made it. If people don't want to release their edits as CC0 they can always
> > > create an account.
> > > 
> > > Regards
> > > 
> > > Jonathan Cardy
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > On 27 Mar 2015, at 10:28, Elias Friedman <elipongo@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > It's actually required so as to provide attribution as per the Creative
> > > > Commons and other licenses we operate under.
> > > > 
> > > > Sent from my Droid 4
> > > > Elias Friedman A.S., CCEMT-P
> > > > אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי
> > > > elipongo@gmail.com
> > > > "יְהִי אוֹר"
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