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Subject:    Re: [webkit-dev] Terminology: Could we change 'roll out' to 'roll back'?
From:       Konstantin Tokarev <annulen () yandex ! ru>
Date:       2020-03-07 2:49:57
Message-ID: 2918941583549167 () sas2-e76feb6221c0 ! qloud-c ! yandex ! net
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07.03.2020, 05:41, "Kirsling, Ross" <ross.kirsling@sony.com>:
> I'd be thrilled for us to use 'revert'.
> Somehow I'd convinced myself that it'd be easier to ask for this if we kept the \
> 'roll' part, but I'm not really sure why I thought so.

On the negative side, it won't be possible anymore to say that someone is on a roll \
when they revert several patches in a row :)

> 
> Of course, it's fine for folks to continue to _say_ 'roll out' due to habit; I just \
> think it would be great if our automated 'rollouts' turned into automated 'reverts' \
> instead. 
> Ross
> 
> On 3/6/20, 6:31 PM, "Ryosuke Niwa" <rniwa@webkit.org> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 6:15 PM Kirsling, Ross <Ross.Kirsling@sony.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Late on Friday seems like a good time for a terminological debate (), so I’d like \
> > to propose we revisit one of the strangest items of WebKit-specific terminology: \
> > the phrase ‘roll out’. 
> > In our industry, the typical meaning of the phrase ‘roll out’ is, of course, \
> > ‘deploy’ or ‘launch’; this corresponds with the colloquial usage of ‘roll out’ to \
> > mean ‘depart (for a destination)’. In WebKit, we use ‘roll out’ to mean the exact \
> > opposite, ‘revert’ or ‘roll back’.
> 
> I think the ship has sailed on this one. People who have been working
> on the WebKit project for long enough are so used to the phrase
> "rollout a patch" that it's gonna be tricky to change the terminology.
> Having said that, I'd much prefer the term "revert" over "rollout" or
> "rollback". It's also the term git uses.
> 
> > This term is confusing enough for native English speakers outside our community, \
> > let alone non-natives (since phrasal verbs are notoriously tricky as it is).
> 
> As a non-native speaker myself, I never find this term confusing
> because I have no mental model of what "rollout" or "rollback" means.
> However, I find those two terms infinitely more confusing than the
> very direct "revert".
> 
> - R. Niwa
> 
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Konstantin

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