'Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit position on Paint Timing / (first paint, first contentful paint)'

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Subject:    Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit position on Paint Timing / (first paint, first contentful paint)
From:       Maciej Stachowiak <mjs () apple ! com>
Date:       2020-03-05 2:21:30
Message-ID: 29732B70-DAA9-464D-866A-D294F7A191AB () apple ! com
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> On Mar 3, 2020, at 12:44 AM, Noam Rosenthal <noam@webkit.org> wrote:
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> On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 10:36 AM Ryosuke Niwa <rniwa@webkit.org <mailto:rniwa@webkit.org>> wrote:
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> By the way, do you know what the status / interests at Mozilla? Given WebKit's painting / navigation \
> behavior / implementation is still pretty close to Blink, it would be a good idea to reach out to \
> Mozilla to make sure whatever in the spec is something they can also implement. 
> Mozilla have a bug open on this: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1518999 \
> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1518999>, but unfortunately it is not prioritized. Since \
> they're mainly a desktop browser web developers currently don't prioritize them for a performance \
> metric. I hope that changes.

This explains a lot about the performance of desktop websites…

(Though in fairness, many mobile sites are not so great either).

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class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 3, 2020, at 12:44 AM, \
Noam Rosenthal &lt;<a href="mailto:noam@webkit.org" class="">noam@webkit.org</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br \
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2020 at 10:36 AM Ryosuke Niwa &lt;<a href="mailto:rniwa@webkit.org" class="">rniwa@webkit.org</a>&gt; \
wrote:</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div class=""><br \
class=""></div><div class="">By the way, do you know what the status / interests at Mozilla? Given \
WebKit's painting / navigation behavior / implementation is still pretty close to Blink, it would be a \
good idea to reach out to Mozilla to make sure whatever in the spec is something they can also \
implement.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote><div class="">Mozilla have a \
bug open on this:&nbsp;<a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1518999" \
class="">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1518999</a>, but unfortunately it is not \
prioritized.<br class="">Since they're mainly a desktop browser web developers currently don't prioritize \
them for a performance metric. I hope that changes.<br class=""></div></div></div></div></blockquote><br \
class=""></div><div>This explains a lot about the performance of desktop websites…</div><div><br \
class=""></div><div>(Though in fairness, many mobile sites are not so great either).</div><br \
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