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List:       webkit-dev
Subject:    Re: [webkit-dev] Proposal: add Privacy to WebKit Project Goals
From:       John Wilander <wilander () apple ! com>
Date:       2020-02-25 18:55:28
Message-ID: 5E87717B-659A-4FD4-AC1B-9DA4092AE59E () apple ! com
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> On Feb 23, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> V2, with stronger privacy language.
> 
> 
> project-new.html
> 1111  WebKit is an open source Web content engine for browsers and other \
> applications. 1212</p></blockquote>
> 1313<p><img src="/wp-content/themes/webkit/images/webkit.svg" alt="The WebKit \
> Project Logo" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-4290" width="33%"></p> 14 <p>We \
> value real-world web compatibility, standards compliance, stability, performance, \
> security, portability, usability, and relative ease of understanding and modifying \
> the code (hackability).</p> 14<p>We value real-world web compatibility, standards \
> compliance, stability, performance, battery life, security, privacy, portability, \
> usability, and relative ease of understanding and modifying the code \
> (hackability).</p> 1515<h2><a name="project-goals"></a>Project Goals</h2>
> 1616<h4><a name="web-content-engine"></a>Web Content Engine</h4>
> 17 <p>The project's primary focus is content deployed on the World Wide Web, using \
> standards-based technologies such as HTML, CSS, JavaScript and the DOM. However, we \
> also want to make it possible to embed WebKit in other applications, and to use it \
> as a general-purpose display and interaction engine.</p> 17<p>The project's primary \
> focus is content deployed on the World Wide Web, using standards-based technologies \
> such as HTML, CSS, JavaScript and DOM. However, we also want to make it possible to \
> embed WebKit in other applications, and to use it as a general-purpose display and \
> interaction engine.</p>

We seem to use the Oxford comma (yay!) but not in "JavaScript and DOM."

> 1818<h4><a name="open-source"></a>Open Source</h4>
> 1919<p>WebKit should remain freely usable for both open source and proprietary \
> applications. To that end, we use BSD-style and LGPL licenses. Specifically, we aim \
> for licensing compatible with LGPL 2.1+. We do not currently plan to move to LGPL \
> 3. In addition, we strive to create a courteous, welcoming environment that feels \
> approachable to newcomers. WebKit maintains a public IRC chat room and a public \
> mailing list where the ideas of contributors both new and old are heard and \
> discussed with equal weight.</p> 2020<h4><a \
> name="compatibility"></a>Compatibility</h4> 
> 2424<h4><a name="stability"></a>Stability</h4>
> 2525<p>The main WebKit code base should always maintain a high degree of stability. \
> This means that crashes, hangs and regressions should be dealt with promptly, \
> rather than letting them pile up.</p> 2626<h4><a \
> name="performance"></a>Performance</h4> 27 <p>Maintaining and improving speed and \
> memory use is an important goal. We never consider performance "good enough", but \
> strive to constantly improve. As web content becomes richer and more complex, and \
> as web browsers run on more limited devices, performance gains continue to have \
> value even if normal browsing seems fast enough.</p> 27<p>Maintaining and improving \
> speed and memory use is an important goal. We never consider performance "good \
> enough", but strive to constantly improve. As web content becomes richer and more \
> complex, and as web browsers run on more limited devices, performance gains \
> continue to have value even if normal browsing seems fast enough. We consider \
> speed, memory use, responsiveness and frame rate to be important aspects of \
> performance.</p>

Oxford comma missing in "responsiveness and frame."

> 28<h4><a name="battery-life"></a>Battery Life</h4>
> 29<p>In addition to traditional performance metrics, we aim to minimize power \
> consumption to maximize browsing battery life for portable devices.</p> 2830<h4><a \
> name="security"></a>Security</h4> 2931<p>Protecting users from security violations \
> is critical. We fix security issues promptly to protect users and maintain their \
> trust.</p> 32<h4><a name="privacy"></a>Privacy</h4>
> 33<p>We believe privacy is a human right. WebKit code won't track the user or \
> otherwise violate their privacy. And we will strive to prevent websites and other \
> parties from doing so.</p>

"WebKit code won't track the user" is ambiguous since WebKit code is rendering \
webpages that may try to track the user. It suggest "WebKit code itself will not \
track the user."

Otherwise a great goal statement.

   Regards, John

> 3034<h4><a name="portability"></a>Portability</h4>
> 3135<p>The WebKit project seeks to address a variety of needs. We want to make it \
> reasonable to port WebKit to a variety of desktop, mobile, embedded and other \
> platforms. We will provide the infrastructure to do this with tight platform \
> integration, reusing native platform services where appropriate and providing \
> friendly embedding APIs.</p> 3236<h4><a name="usability"></a>Usability</h4>
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class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 23, 2020, at 5:02 PM, \
Maciej Stachowiak &lt;<a href="mailto:mjs@apple.com" class="">mjs@apple.com</a>&gt; \
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after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div>V2, with stronger \
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rgb(238, 238, 221);">&nbsp;</span><span class="text" style="padding-left: 5px; \
white-space: pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">&lt;p&gt;We value real-world web \
compatibility, standards compliance, stability, performance, security, portability, \
usability, and relative ease of understanding and modifying the code \
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white-space: pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">&lt;p&gt;We value real-world web \
compatibility, standards compliance, stability, performance, <ins \
style="background-color: rgb(153, 238, 153); text-decoration: none;" class="">battery \
life, </ins>securit<ins style="background-color: rgb(153, 238, 153); text-decoration: \
none;" class="">y, privac</ins>y, portability, usability, and relative ease of \
understanding and modifying the code (hackability).&lt;/p&gt;</span></div></div><div \
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style="--border-bottom-color:  #998; border-bottom: 1px solid \
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vertical-align: bottom; width: 3em; background-color: rgb(238, 238, \
221);">15</span><span class="text" style="padding-left: 5px; white-space: pre-wrap; \
word-wrap: break-word;">&lt;h2&gt;&lt;a name="project-goals"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Project \
Goals&lt;/h2&gt;</span></div><div class="Line LineContainer" style="white-space: \
nowrap;"><span class="lineNumber from" style="--border-bottom-color:  #998; \
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vertical-align: bottom; width: 3em; background-color: rgb(238, 238, \
221);">16</span><span class="text" style="padding-left: 5px; white-space: pre-wrap; \
word-wrap: break-word;">&lt;h4&gt;&lt;a name="web-content-engine"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Web \
Content Engine&lt;/h4&gt;</span></div></div><div class="clear_float" style="clear: \
both;"></div></div><div class="DiffBlock"><div class="DiffBlockPart remove" \
style="background-color: rgb(255, 221, 221);"><div class="Line LineContainer remove" \
style="white-space: nowrap;"><span class="lineNumber from" \
style="--border-bottom-color:  #998; border-bottom: 1px solid \
var(--border-bottom-color); border-right: 1px solid var(--border-color); color: \
rgb(68, 68, 68); display: inline-block; padding: 1px 5px 0px 0px; text-align: right; \
vertical-align: bottom; width: 3em; background-color: rgb(238, 238, \
221);">17</span><span class="to lineNumber" style="--border-bottom-color:  #998; \
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0px 0px; text-align: right; vertical-align: bottom; width: 3em; background-color: \
rgb(238, 238, 221);">&nbsp;</span><span class="text" style="padding-left: 5px; \
white-space: pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">&lt;p&gt;The project's primary focus \
is content deployed on the World Wide Web, using standards-based technologies such as \
HTML, CSS, JavaScript and<del style="background-color: rgb(238, 153, 153); \
text-decoration: none;" class=""> the</del> DOM. However, we also want to make it \
possible to embed WebKit in other applications, and to use it as a general-purpose \
display and interaction engine.&lt;/p&gt;</span></div></div><div class="DiffBlockPart \
add" style="background-color: rgb(221, 255, 221);"><div class="add Line \
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221);">&nbsp;</span><span class="to lineNumber" style="--border-bottom-color:  #998; \
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var(--border-color); color: rgb(68, 68, 68); display: inline-block; padding: 1px 5px \
0px 0px; text-align: right; vertical-align: bottom; width: 3em; background-color: \
rgb(238, 238, 221);">17</span><span class="text" style="padding-left: 5px; \
white-space: pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">&lt;p&gt;The project's primary focus \
is content deployed on the World Wide Web, using standards-based technologies such as \
HTML, CSS, JavaScript and DOM. However, we also want to make it possible to embed \
WebKit in other applications, and to use it as a general-purpose display and \
interaction engine.&lt;/p&gt;</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br \
class=""></div><div>We seem to use the Oxford comma (yay!) but not in "JavaScript and \
DOM."</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div \
style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: \
after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><div class="DiffSection" style="border: \
solid var(--border-color); font-family: monospace;"><div class="DiffBlock"><div \
class="clear_float" style="clear: both;"></div></div><div class="DiffBlock"><div \
class="DiffBlockPart shared"><div class="Line LineContainer" style="white-space: \
nowrap;"><span class="lineNumber from" style="--border-bottom-color:  #998; \
border-bottom: 1px solid var(--border-bottom-color); border-right: 1px solid \
var(--border-color); color: rgb(68, 68, 68); display: inline-block; padding: 1px 5px \
0px 0px; text-align: right; vertical-align: bottom; width: 3em; background-color: \
rgb(238, 238, 221);">18</span><span class="to lineNumber" \
style="--border-bottom-color:  #998; border-bottom: 1px solid \
var(--border-bottom-color); border-right: 1px solid var(--border-color); color: \
rgb(68, 68, 68); display: inline-block; padding: 1px 5px 0px 0px; text-align: right; \
vertical-align: bottom; width: 3em; background-color: rgb(238, 238, \
221);">18</span><span class="text" style="padding-left: 5px; white-space: pre-wrap; \
word-wrap: break-word;">&lt;h4&gt;&lt;a name="open-source"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Open \
Source&lt;/h4&gt;</span></div><div class="Line LineContainer" style="white-space: \
nowrap;"><span class="lineNumber from" style="--border-bottom-color:  #998; \
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var(--border-color); color: rgb(68, 68, 68); display: inline-block; padding: 1px 5px \
0px 0px; text-align: right; vertical-align: bottom; width: 3em; background-color: \
rgb(238, 238, 221);">19</span><span class="to lineNumber" \
style="--border-bottom-color:  #998; border-bottom: 1px solid \
var(--border-bottom-color); border-right: 1px solid var(--border-color); color: \
rgb(68, 68, 68); display: inline-block; padding: 1px 5px 0px 0px; text-align: right; \
vertical-align: bottom; width: 3em; background-color: rgb(238, 238, \
221);">19</span><span class="text" style="padding-left: 5px; white-space: pre-wrap; \
word-wrap: break-word;">&lt;p&gt;WebKit should remain freely usable for both open \
source and proprietary applications. To that end, we use BSD-style and LGPL licenses. \
Specifically, we aim for licensing compatible with LGPL 2.1+. We do not currently \
plan to move to LGPL 3. In addition, we strive to create a courteous, welcoming \
environment that feels approachable to newcomers. WebKit maintains a public IRC chat \
room and a public mailing list where the ideas of contributors both new and old are \
heard and discussed with equal weight.&lt;/p&gt;</span></div><div class="Line \
LineContainer" style="white-space: nowrap;"><span class="lineNumber from" \
style="--border-bottom-color:  #998; border-bottom: 1px solid \
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rgb(68, 68, 68); display: inline-block; padding: 1px 5px 0px 0px; text-align: right; \
vertical-align: bottom; width: 3em; background-color: rgb(238, 238, \
221);">20</span><span class="to lineNumber" style="--border-bottom-color:  #998; \
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0px 0px; text-align: right; vertical-align: bottom; width: 3em; background-color: \
rgb(238, 238, 221);">20</span><span class="text" style="padding-left: 5px; \
white-space: pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">&lt;h4&gt;&lt;a \
name="compatibility"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Compatibility&lt;/h4&gt;</span></div></div><div \
class="clear_float" style="clear: both;"></div></div></div><br style="font-family: \
monospace; background-color: rgb(248, 248, 248);" class=""><div class="DiffSection" \
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