'Re: [webkit-dev] Experimental features enabled at runtime'

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List:       webkit-dev
Subject:    Re: [webkit-dev] Experimental features enabled at runtime
From:       Dean Jackson <dino () apple ! com>
Date:       2016-11-07 21:01:17
Message-ID: 44BDC153-E887-4588-8D77-928D75EEA0EC () apple ! com
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> On 6 Nov. 2016, at 10:03 am, Ryosuke Niwa <rniwa@webkit.org> wrote:
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> I DO want to enable experimental features to be enabled in Safari Technology \
> Preview and WebKit nightly builds by default because that's sort of the whole point \
> of having those versions of Safari in the first place.

I might be the only one with this point of view (and it explains the confusion since \
I added the code), but "Experimental" means exactly that: it isn't ready to be \
enabled by default. If it can be enabled by default, it isn't experimental.

Safari Technology Preview is meant to be used as a full-time browser. It has to be \
stable. Yes, it has features that haven't yet shipped in main Safari, but they should \
not be dangerous. The idea of the Experimental Features is that developers can easily \
choose to enable them, just like they do on other browsers.

I don't understand why we'd pick a different behaviour than Chrome, Firefox, etc in \
this case. Developers understand this situation.

Dean

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type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 6 Nov. 2016, at 10:03 am, Ryosuke Niwa &lt;<a \
href="mailto:rniwa@webkit.org" class="">rniwa@webkit.org</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br \
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DO want to enable experimental features to be enabled in Safari Technology Preview \
and WebKit nightly builds by default because that's sort of the whole point of having \
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class=""><div class="">I might be the only one with this point of view (and it \
explains the confusion since I added the code), but "Experimental" means exactly \
that: it isn't ready to be enabled by default. If it can be enabled by default, it \
isn't experimental.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Safari \
Technology Preview is meant to be used as a full-time browser. It has to be stable. \
Yes, it has features that haven't yet shipped in main Safari, but they should not be \
dangerous. The idea of the Experimental Features is that developers can easily choose \
to enable them, just like they do on other browsers.</div><div class=""><br \
class=""></div><div class="">I don't understand why we'd pick a different behaviour \
than Chrome, Firefox, etc in this case. Developers understand this \
situation.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Dean</div><div \
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