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Subject: Re: [webkit-dev] Why WAP?
From: George Staikos <staikos () kde ! org>
Date: 2009-08-07 3:26:58
Message-ID: A62863CF-00BB-43C2-8276-3CD369B91D9E () kde ! org
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It's nice to live in your own little land in the Bay Area and have
megabits of direct internet connection but billions of people are in
a place where bandwidth is at a premium and in many cases access is
only via a WAP gateway. I had the pleasure of spending a lot of time
in that environment last year. We went through the discussion of
including mobile standards earlier: http://marc.info/?l=webkit-
dev&m=124217066116839&w=2 This isn't a science[1] project. It's an
engineering[2] project.
There are 493,124,000 subscribers[3] to China Mobile alone, the vast
majority of which have only WAP access. I don't think we need more
statistics to validate the importance. Don't look for it to help
Chrome. It won't. It's not the solution to that problem.
1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science
2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineering
3: http://www.chinamobileltd.com/
On 6-Aug-09, at 9:45 PM, Eric Seidel wrote:
> Why do we have patches for WAP support?
>
> WAP is big in asian markets, yes?
> Can someone provide some data as to how big? Is the market for WAP
> growing? It seems that the various posted -wap- patches have
> limited utility for the rest of WebKit. It seems to me (although I
> am the first to admit ignorance here!) that WAP is a dying
> technology and I don't see why we would want to add the complexity
> to WebKit.
>
> I worry the proposed WAP support patches violate some of our non-
> goals.
> http://webkit.org/projects/goals.html
> WebKit is an engineering project not a science project.
> WebKit is not the solution to every problem.
--
George Staikos
Torch Mobile Inc.
http://www.torchmobile.com/
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-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "> <div><br></div>It's nice to live in your \
own little land in the Bay Area and have megabits of direct internet connection but \
billions of people are in a place where bandwidth is at a premium and in many cases \
access is only via a WAP gateway. I had the pleasure of spending a lot of time in \
that environment last year. We went through the discussion of including mobile \
standards earlier: <a \
href="http://marc.info/?l=webkit-dev&m=124217066116839&w=2">http://marc.info/?l=webkit-dev&m=124217066116839&w=2</a> \
This isn't a science[1] project. It's an engineering[2] project. \
<div><div><br></div><div>There are 493,124,000 subscribers[3] to China Mobile alone, \
the vast majority of which have only WAP access. I don't think we need more \
statistics to validate the importance. Don't look for it to help Chrome. It won't. \
It's not the solution to that problem.</div><div><br></div><div>1: <a \
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science</a></div><div>2: \
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineering">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineering</a></div><div>3: \
<a href="http://www.chinamobileltd.com">http://www.chinamobileltd.com</a>/</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On \
6-Aug-09, at 9:45 PM, Eric Seidel wrote:</div><br \
class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Why do we have patches for \
WAP support?<div><br><div>WAP is big in asian markets, yes?</div><div>Can someone \
provide some data as to how big? Is the market for WAP growing? It seems that the \
various posted -wap- patches have limited utility for the rest of WebKit. It seems \
to me (although I am the first to admit ignorance here!) that WAP is a dying \
technology and I don't see why we would want to add the complexity to WebKit.</div> \
<div><br></div><div>I worry the proposed WAP support patches violate some of our \
non-goals.</div><div><a \
href="http://webkit.org/projects/goals.html">http://webkit.org/projects/goals.html</a></div><div><span \
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bold; margin-top: 1em; "> WebKit is an engineering project not a science \
project.</dt><div><b><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal; "><dt \
style="font-weight: bold; margin-top: 1em; ">WebKit is not the solution to every \
problem.</dt></span></b></div></span></div></div></blockquote><br></div><div> <span \
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"><div>--</div><div><div>George Staikos</div><div>Torch Mobile Inc.</div><div><a \
href="http://www.torchmobile.com">http://www.torchmobile.com</a>/</div></div></span> \
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