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Date: 2023-05-05 16:19:29
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(THIS is what Web4Lib is great at – thank you all.)
Louise
From: Web4Lib List <Web4Lib@listserv.uc.edu> On Behalf Of Laura Baker
Sent: Friday, May 5, 2023 10:33 AM
To: WEB4LIB@LISTSERV.UC.EDU
Subject: [EXT] Re: [WEB4LIB] Monitoring your webpage and links (was: Proposal: \
closing and archiving Web4Lib)
For basic web pages, even those with a lot of links, I have used Broken Link Checker \
at https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/broken-link-checker/nibppfobembgfmejpjaaeocbogeonhch.
It is a free plugin for Chrome. Even though I am a Firefox user, I found the plugin \
useful enough that I will load the page I want to check in Chrome so I can run the \
extension.
Laura
On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 10:03 AM Tony Zbaraschuk \
<tony.z@swau.edu<mailto:tony.z@swau.edu>> wrote: A lot of web page software come with \
a link analysis tool -- for instance, we use Springshare's LibGuides, which includes \
an asset checker that will, among other things, examine the validity of links. \
(Warning: it only checks the ones you've designated as an asset, not the links you've \
embedded in regular web page text -- read the manual carefully!). I run it regularly \
as part of website maintenance.
But sometimes I have to check manually, because while link checkers are nice for \
"this page no longer exists" or (if the web page designer is nice) "this page is now \
at <different address X>" or "this address now redirects to <address Y>", sometimes \
changes are more subtle. I go through our list of databases twice a year or so, to \
make sure things are still pointing where they're supposed to.
This is usually more a problem with small websites -- companies like EBSCO have a \
pretty stable interface by now and are good at seamlessly redirecting their old URLs \
to the new ones, but not everyone has the staff to do this, so you still need to \
check.
I formerly used the W3C automated link checker (https://validator.w3.org/checklink) \
but it doesn't play well with web pages that have huge numbers of \
automatically-generated links that redirect around your site (like, oh, pages built \
by LibGuides). It's a good tool and might be useful for you, depending on what \
you're checking. There are other automated link checkers around the Web.
Tony Z
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Subject: EXTERNAL:Re: [WEB4LIB] Proposal: closing and archiving Web4Lib
Hi,
I'll be sorry to see this list disappear. However, there is nothing like a \
deadline. I've been meaning to ask a few questions but I'm constantly putting them \
aside because of other projects. I think this is the right list for these. I'm \
looking for some free or cheap reliable resources for the following. I had \
resources for these needs before but they have disappeared over the years.
* What do you use to monitor changes in webpages?
* What do you use to make sure all the external links you have on research guides \
on an intranet or a catalog are still good?
* What are your favorite WordPress add-ins for a Wiki, Task Manager with \
recurring tasks, or other useful tools to manage or present information to users.
Thank you,
Martina Anders
Library Resource Manager
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Behalf Of Sutherland, Paul
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Subject: Re: [WEB4LIB] Proposal: closing and archiving Web4Lib
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Hi, maybe instead of looking for reasons to shut down this list we should be looking \
at ways of re-invigorating.
In the past I have been to shy of asking questions on this list because it seemed so \
erudite, or silent.
However since it recent rebirth it has seemed to be at the opposite end of the \
spectrum – a help desk for public libraries technology? Not sure if I mind. It is \
good that questions get answers, or guidance of how to look elsewhere.
How many subscribers are there?
I would be in favour of it continuing the existence of the WEB4LIB list.
Regards
Paul
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Behalf Of Galen Charlton
Sent: Thursday, 4 May 2023 10:37 am
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Subject: [WEB4LIB] Proposal: closing and archiving Web4Lib
Hi,
In light of current discussion on this list, and following up on my post of last \
August [1], it is perhaps time for us to consider that discussion about web \
technologies specifically for libraries has come to a natural end - at least in this \
forum. Not, of course, because the web has gone away, but because it suffuses nearly \
all library technology. It is far from being the "new thing" as it was back when this \
mailing list was established.
There has been little discussion of library-specific web technology on this list \
since August, barring some job posting and CFPs. I also do not see signs of any \
particular effort to launch active discussions on such topics.
To put that last point another way: if you as list members want more discussion at \
the intersection of web tech and libraries, it is ultimately your responsibility to \
initiate it.
Otherwise, requests to unsubscribe can be sent to \
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or handled at https://listserv.uc.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A0=web4lib<https://urldefense.com \
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In any event, without the requests for technical assistance that one member has been \
making the past few months, total list traffic would have been very low and would \
largely consist of job and CFP postings that typically get widely broadcast.
Consequently, I submit the following proposal: that Web4Lib be closed at the end of \
May while arranging for its archives to be maintained indefinitely. If such a \
proposal spurs interest by members to post on the intersection of the web and \
libraries, great, but otherwise the list's time may have passed.
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Regards,
Galen
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<p class="MsoNormal">(THIS is what Web4Lib is great at – thank you \
all.)<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Louise</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Web4Lib List <Web4Lib@listserv.uc.edu> <b>On \
Behalf Of </b>Laura Baker<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 5, 2023 10:33 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> WEB4LIB@LISTSERV.UC.EDU<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXT] Re: [WEB4LIB] Monitoring your webpage and links (was: Proposal: \
closing and archiving Web4Lib)<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">For basic web pages, even those \
with a lot of links, I have used Broken Link Checker at <a \
href="https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/broken-link-checker/nibppfobembgfmejpjaaeocbogeonhch">
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/broken-link-checker/nibppfobembgfmejpjaaeocbogeonhch</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">It is a free plugin for \
Chrome. Even though I am a Firefox user, I found the plugin useful enough that \
I will load the page I want to check in Chrome so I can run the \
extension.<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Laura<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 10:03 AM Tony Zbaraschuk <<a \
href="mailto:tony.z@swau.edu">tony.z@swau.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">A \
lot of web page software come with a link analysis tool -- for instance, we use \
Springshare's LibGuides, which includes an asset checker that will, among other \
things, examine the validity of links. (Warning: it only checks the ones you've \
designated as an asset, not the links you've embedded in regular web page text -- \
read the manual carefully!). I run it regularly as part of website \
maintenance.<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New \
Roman",serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> </div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New \
Roman",serif;color:black">But sometimes I have to check manually, because while \
link checkers are nice for "this page no longer exists" or (if the web page \
designer is nice) "this page is now at <different address X>" \
or "this address now redirects to <address Y>", sometimes changes are \
more subtle. I go through our list of databases twice a year or so, to make \
sure things are still pointing where they're supposed to.<o:p></o:p></span></p> \
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New \
Roman",serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> </div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New \
Roman",serif;color:black">This is usually more a problem with small websites -- \
companies like EBSCO have a pretty stable interface by now and are good at seamlessly \
redirecting their old URLs to the new ones, but not everyone has the staff to do \
this, so you still need to check.<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New \
Roman",serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> </div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">I \
formerly used the W3C automated link checker (<a \
href="https://validator.w3.org/checklink" \
target="_blank">https://validator.w3.org/checklink</a>) but it doesn't play well \
with web pages that have huge numbers of automatically-generated links that redirect \
around your site (like, oh, pages built by LibGuides). It's a good tool and \
might be useful for you, depending on what you're checking. There are other \
automated link checkers around the Web.<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div>
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<p><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;color:#212121">Tony Zbaraschuk</span></b><span \
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style="color:black"> Web4Lib List <<a href="mailto:Web4Lib@listserv.uc.edu" \
target="_blank">Web4Lib@listserv.uc.edu</a>> on behalf of Anders, Martina <<a \
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target="_blank">Martina.Anders@THOMPSONHINE.COM</a>><br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, May \
5, 2023 8:43 AM<br> <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:WEB4LIB@LISTSERV.UC.EDU" \
target="_blank">WEB4LIB@LISTSERV.UC.EDU</a> <<a \
href="mailto:WEB4LIB@LISTSERV.UC.EDU" \
target="_blank">WEB4LIB@LISTSERV.UC.EDU</a>><br> <b>Subject:</b> EXTERNAL:Re: \
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<p style="margin:0in">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in">I'll be sorry to see this list disappear. However, \
there is nothing like a deadline. I've been meaning to ask a few \
questions but I'm constantly putting them aside because of other \
projects. I think this is the right list for these. I'm \
looking for some free or cheap reliable resources for the following. I \
had resources for these needs before but they have disappeared over the \
years.<o:p></o:p></p> <p style="margin:0in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">What do you use to monitor \
changes in webpages?<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 \
lfo1">What do you use to make sure all the external links you have on research guides \
on an intranet or a catalog are still good? <o:p></o:p></li><li \
class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">What are your favorite WordPress \
add-ins for a Wiki, Task Manager with recurring tasks, or other useful tools to \
manage or present information to users.<o:p></o:p></li></ul> <p \
style="margin:0in"> <o:p></o:p></p> <p style="margin:0in">Thank \
you,<o:p></o:p></p> <p style="margin:0in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in">Martina Anders<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in">Library Resource Manager<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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Web4Lib List <<a href="mailto:Web4Lib@listserv.uc.edu" \
target="_blank">Web4Lib@listserv.uc.edu</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sutherland, \
Paul<br> <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 04, 2023 10:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:WEB4LIB@LISTSERV.UC.EDU" \
target="_blank">WEB4LIB@LISTSERV.UC.EDU</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [WEB4LIB] \
Proposal: closing and archiving Web4Lib<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
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<p style="margin:0in"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style="margin:0in;line-height:12.0pt;background:#FFEB9C"><b><span lang="EN-NZ" \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#9C6500">CAUTION \
EXTERNAL EMAIL</span></b><o:p></o:p></p> <div>
<p style="margin:0in"><span lang="EN-NZ">Hi, maybe instead of looking for reasons to \
shut down this list we should be looking at ways of \
re-invigorating.</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p style="margin:0in"><span \
lang="EN-NZ"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p style="margin:0in"><span lang="EN-NZ">In \
the past I have been to shy of asking questions on this list because it seemed so \
erudite, or silent.</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p style="margin:0in"><span \
lang="EN-NZ"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p style="margin:0in"><span \
lang="EN-NZ">However since it recent rebirth it has seemed to be at the opposite end \
of the spectrum – a help desk for public libraries technology? Not sure if I mind. \
It is good that questions get answers, or guidance of how to look \
elsewhere.</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p style="margin:0in"><span \
lang="EN-NZ"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p style="margin:0in"><span \
lang="EN-NZ">How many subscribers are there?</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p \
style="margin:0in"><span lang="EN-NZ"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p \
style="margin:0in"><span lang="EN-NZ">I would be in favour of it continuing the \
existence of the WEB4LIB list.</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p style="margin:0in"><span \
lang="EN-NZ"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p style="margin:0in"><span \
lang="EN-NZ">Regards </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p style="margin:0in"><span \
lang="EN-NZ">Paul</span><o:p></o:p></p> <p style="margin:0in"><span \
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style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p \
style="margin:0in"><span lang="EN-NZ" \
style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p style="margin:0in"><span \
lang="EN-NZ"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p style="margin:0in"><span \
lang="EN-NZ"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <p style="margin:0in"><span \
lang="EN-NZ"> </span><o:p></o:p></p> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid \
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<p style="margin:0in"><b>From:</b> Web4Lib List <<a \
href="mailto:Web4Lib@listserv.uc.edu" target="_blank">Web4Lib@listserv.uc.edu</a>> \
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Galen Charlton<br> <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 4 May 2023 10:37 am<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:WEB4LIB@LISTSERV.UC.EDU" \
target="_blank">WEB4LIB@LISTSERV.UC.EDU</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> [WEB4LIB] Proposal: \
closing and archiving Web4Lib<o:p></o:p></p> </div>
<p style="margin:0in"><span lang="EN-NZ"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in"><span lang="EN-NZ">Hi,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in"><span lang="EN-NZ"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in"><span lang="EN-NZ">In light of current discussion on this list, \
and following up on my post of last August [1], it is perhaps time for us to consider \
that discussion about web technologies specifically for libraries has come to a \
natural end - at least in this forum. Not, of course, because the web has gone away, \
but because it suffuses nearly all library technology. It is far from being the \
"new thing" as it was back when this mailing list was \
established.</span><o:p></o:p></p> </div>
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<p style="margin:0in"><span lang="EN-NZ">There has been little discussion of \
library-specific web technology on this list since August, barring some job posting \
and CFPs. I also do not see signs of any particular effort to launch active \
discussions on such topics.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in"><span lang="EN-NZ">To put that last point another way: if you \
as list members want more discussion at the intersection of web tech and libraries, \
it is ultimately your responsibility to initiate it.</span><o:p></o:p></p> </div>
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<p style="margin:0in"><span lang="EN-NZ">In any event, without the requests for \
technical assistance that one member has been making the past few months, total list \
traffic would have been very low and would largely consist of job and CFP postings \
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proposal: that Web4Lib be closed at the end of May while arranging for its archives \
to be maintained indefinitely. If such a proposal spurs interest by members to post \
on the intersection of the web and libraries, great, but otherwise the list's time \
may have passed.</span><o:p></o:p></p> </div>
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ac39.2208&S=__;!!OdqygGz-7UHvSw!scUCtdajk32ajZAD2j1veV7eG5dqrGXAb4F3zDfhQAcEJ9Fw949ZUaN4zPvRHx9t45iWt4GmGA8tZGk1fggpMlsw86ttWiTadrymNZ8$" \
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<p style="margin:0in"><span lang="EN-NZ">Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in"><span lang="EN-NZ">Galen<br>
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<p style="margin:0in"><span lang="EN-NZ">Galen Charlton<br>
<a href="mailto:gmcharlt@gmail.com" \
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