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Subject:    Re: [WEB4LIB] Email 2 Step Authentication - No Mobile Phone Issue
From:       "Pruntel,Alison" <Alison.Pruntel () FAUQUIERCOUNTY ! GOV>
Date:       2014-04-28 13:12:35
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Alison Pruntel
Electronic Resources Librarian
Fauquier County Public Library
11 Winchester Street
Warrenton, VA 20186
540-422-8515
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From: Salazar, Christina [mailto:christina.salazar@CSUCI.EDU]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: Email 2 Step Authentication - No Mobile Phone Issue

According to Google, the mobile phone info is "optional, but strongly recommended if \
you have a mobile phone" - https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/1733224?hl=en

Are you saying it's not possible to have a Gmail account without the mobile \
phone?[Pruntel,Alison]  I thought this was the case when he went to create an \
account, as it asked for mobile along with name, etc. (none of the fields said \
required or not, all appeared to be required). This morning I tried and was able to \
just leave that blank and I could create an account.


Christina Salazar
Systems Librarian
John Spoor Broome Library
California State University, Channel Islands
805/437-3198
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From: Web technologies in libraries [mailto:WEB4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of \
                Elaine Anderson
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 9:59 AM
To: WEB4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<mailto:WEB4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WEB4LIB] Email 2 Step Authentication - No Mobile Phone Issue

We have had a patron with the same problem but at some point Outlook/Hotmail allowed \
us to put in an alternate email address instead which he already had set up. A \
verification code was supposedly sent to one of those addresses. When it didn't come \
into his Gmail account, we sent another request to his Yahoo account. He got into \
Outlook with the access code. However, I think when he tried to log into Outlook \
again, he was asked for a cell number. I wasn't in front of the computer when he was \
trying this, so I'm not sure exactly what happened but he couldn't access his \
account.

Does Gmail require a cell phone number for all new accounts?

If anyone has a solution, I'd be interested in hearing what people have done to work \
around the problem.

Thanks,
Elaine

Elaine Anderson
Public Services Coordinator
Pelham Public Library
43 Pelham Town Square
Box 830
Fonthill, ON  L0S 1E0
905.892.6443
http://www.pelhamlibrary.on.ca<http://www.pelhamlibrary.on.ca/>
http://www.pelhamlibrary.blogspot.com<http://www.pelhamlibrary.blogspot.com/>

From: Web technologies in libraries \
[mailto:WEB4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]<mailto:[mailto:WEB4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]> On Behalf \
                Of Pruntel,Alison
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 11:46 AM
To: WEB4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU<mailto:WEB4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU>
Subject: [WEB4LIB] Email 2 Step Authentication - No Mobile Phone Issue

Hi all,

How are you dealing with library patrons who are being required to enter a mobile \
number to receive text notifications (receive security code) for authenticating their \
email account? I thought there were still a few free webmail apps out there that \
didn't require a mobile phone/text option for a security code, but did not have luck \
helping elderly gentleman yesterday (his Hotmail/Outlook account now requires a \
mobile; he doesn't have one and using his land line did not work). When I tried to \
help him create a new account on Yahoo, Aol, etc., they now all ask for a cell phone \
number when you sign up. The only one that didn't was mail.com, but when we tried to \
create a new account for him on that service, it kept giving the message to try again \
later.

Thanks in advance for any advice/tips...

Alison Pruntel
Electronic Resources Librarian
Fauquier County Public Library
11 Winchester Street
Warrenton, VA 20186
540-422-8515
Like Us on Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/fauquierlibrary






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Electronic Resources Librarian <br>
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11 Winchester Street <br>
Warrenton, VA 20186 <br>
540-422-8515 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 25, 2014 1:04 PM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Email 2 Step Authentication - No Mobile Phone \
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">According to Google, the mobile \
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but strongly recommended if you have a mobile  phone&#8221; - <a \
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phone?</span><b><i><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#C45911;background:white">[Pruntel,Alison]
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#C45911;background:white">&nbsp;I \
thought this was the case when he went to create an account, as it asked for mobile \
along with name, etc. (none of the fields said required  or not, all appeared to be \
required). This morning I tried and was able to just leave that blank and I could \
create an account.</span><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#444444;background:white"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Christina \
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style="color:#1F497D">Systems Librarian<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">John Spoor Broome \
Library<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="color:#1F497D">California State University, Channel \
Islands<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Web \
technologies in libraries [<a \
href="mailto:WEB4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU">mailto:WEB4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</a>] <b>On \
Behalf Of </b>Elaine Anderson<br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 25, 2014 9:59 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:WEB4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU">WEB4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [WEB4LIB] Email 2 Step Authentication - No Mobile Phone \
Issue<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">We have had a patron with the same \
problem but at some point Outlook/Hotmail allowed us to put in an alternate email \
address instead which he already had set up. A verification code was supposedly sent \
to one  of those addresses. When it didn&#8217;t come into his Gmail account, we sent \
another request to his Yahoo account. He got into Outlook with the access code. \
However, I think when he tried to log into Outlook again, he was asked for a cell \
number. I wasn&#8217;t in front  of the computer when he was trying this, so \
I&#8217;m not sure exactly what happened but he couldn&#8217;t access his \
account.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="color:#1F497D">Does Gmail require a cell phone number for all new \
accounts?<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="color:#1F497D">If anyone has a solution, I&#8217;d be interested in hearing \
what people have done to work around the problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Elaine <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p \
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Coordinator<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New \
Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Pelham Public \
Library<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Web \
technologies in libraries <a \
href="mailto:[mailto:WEB4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]">[mailto:WEB4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU]</a> \
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pruntel,Alison<br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 25, 2014 11:46 \
AM<br> <b>To:</b> <a \
href="mailto:WEB4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU">WEB4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> \
[WEB4LIB] Email 2 Step Authentication - No Mobile Phone Issue<o:p></o:p></span></p> \
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">How are you dealing with library \
patrons who are being required to enter a mobile number to receive text notifications \
(receive security code) for authenticating their email account? I thought there were \
still  a few free webmail apps out there that didn&#8217;t require a mobile \
phone/text option for a security code, but did not have luck helping elderly \
gentleman yesterday (his Hotmail/Outlook account now requires a mobile; he \
doesn&#8217;t have one and using his land line  did not work). When I tried to help \
him create a new account on Yahoo, Aol, etc., they now all ask for a cell phone \
number when you sign up. The only one that didn&#8217;t was mail.com, but when we \
tried to create a new account for him on that service, it kept giving  the message to \
try again later. <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt">Thanks in advance for any \
advice/tips&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Alison \
Pruntel</span></b><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> <br>
Electronic Resources Librarian <br>
Fauquier County Public Library <br>
11 Winchester Street <br>
Warrenton, VA 20186 <br>
540-422-8515 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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