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Subject: Re: [vtk-developers] [vtkusers] VTKBook Strawman - Chapter 3
From: Todd via vtk-developers <vtk-developers () vtk ! org>
Date: 2018-04-06 23:43:13
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<div dir='auto'><div dir="auto">That looks great. It's nice to see the formula \
variables formatted properly in the text. I agree that LaTeX embedded in markdown is \
a good choice!</div><br><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><br><div \
class="gmail_quote">On 7 Apr 2018 2:11 a.m., Bill Lorensen \
<bill.lorensen@gmail.com> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote \
class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">More progress.I found a great online tool to \
generate Latex formulas. <br>
With no previous Latex experience,I was able to generate all of the
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equations for Chapter 3. I can embed Latex in the markdown. The
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equations are rendered by MathJax.
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Here is the online website:
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http://www.hostmath.com/
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and here is the updated Chapter 3:
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https://lorensen.github.io/VTKExamples/site/VTKBook/Chapter3/
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Bill
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On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 6:28 AM, David Cole via vtk-developers
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<vtk-developers@vtk.org> wrote:
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> "I ignore whether Markdown/reStrucuredText support for
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> tools to have proper printed texts is likely to be improved."
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>
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> I have become a big fan of "print to pdf using the Chrome browser" to
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> get a printed copy of web content these days. It's actually not a bad
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> way to go if you don't need to refer to page numbers within the text.
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>
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>
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> And now, this is just my opinion, so take with yet another grain of salt:
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>
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> The available "writer pool" for LaTeX is far far smaller than that for
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> markdown. If the math stuff must be in LaTeX, I'd very strongly prefer
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> to see it as embedded chunks of LaTeX than have the whole thing be in
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> LaTeX.
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>
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>
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> Nice work, as usual Bill.
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>
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>
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> Thanks,
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> David C.
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>
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>
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>
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> On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 2:20 AM, Jon Haitz Legarreta
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> <jhlegarreta@vicomtech.org> wrote:
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>> Bill, Andrew, simply brilliant.
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>>
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>> I've spot some parts in the Chapters 3 and 6 strawmans that were
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>> already mentioned by you and Todd whose transition has some errors
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>> (links that are missing, missing cross-reference links to VTK classes,
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>> examples or bibliography, etc.).
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>>
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>> How can we contribute to fix them? Are you still working on the
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>> transition tools to improve the output, or you want us to manually try
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>> to fix them?
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>>
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>> I can help with/do all the Maths in LaTeX Bill. However, if the tool
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>> you found works or the transition will be automatic, I do not see
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>> where to help at this stage. Please, let me know.
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>>
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>> Otherwise, it's looking awesome.
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>>
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>> As for the LaTeX vs. Markdown/reStrucuredText discussion:
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>>
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>> I've contributed with some patches to the ITK SW Guide written in
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>> LaTeX. I guess at the time it was written Markdown and reStrucuredText
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>> were not available, so I think the choice was fair.
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>>
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>> Having said that, I admit that the learning curve for LaTeX may be
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>> higher than that for Markdown or reStrucuredText. The latter are
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>> tailored for web navigation, which is most people expect. And times
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>> have changed. I ignore whether Markdown/reStrucuredText support for
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>> tools to have proper printed texts is likely to be improved.
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>>
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>> I guess the ITK SW Guide requiring to be compiled (both the examples
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>> to generate the figures and LaTeX itself) is not a downside, since VTK
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>> Cxx examples used in this book need so.
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>>
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>> I guess having a first version for both cases (LaTeX and
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>> Markdown/reStrucuredText) is somehow costly at the beginning.
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>> Maintaining/sync'ing them once that is done every time there is a
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>> change may not effortless also. But that may be the price to pay.
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>>
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>> The ITK SW Guide keeps being maintained. I ignore whether the ITK
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>> folks at Kitware have considered to transition to Markdown or
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>> reStrucuredText.
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>>
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>> JON HAITZ
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>>
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>> --
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>>
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>>
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>> On 6 April 2018 at 01:05, Todd via vtk-developers
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>> <vtk-developers@vtk.org> wrote:
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>>> Fantastic. I think Latex is definitely the way to go, although I'm no \
expert <br>
>>> in writing it.
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>>>
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