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List:       vnc-list
Subject:    RE: Microsoft AntiSpyware Beta
From:       "Erik Soderquist" <esoderquist () mcstamp ! com>
Date:       2005-05-24 12:05:00
Message-ID: 7D1B9204B4336C489C8AAFDCC58096F334D1AE () mcs-mail ! mcsi ! corp
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personally, I would like to have the option of uninstalling microsoft's
remote support. I consider something I can't turn off or remove (the
checkbox doesn't mean much) to be a higher threat. if the door is there,
no matter how well closed and locked, it can be broken into. yes, I
would consider vnc to be a threat as well, especially if I didn't
install it. but I do have the option to remove vnc.

as to microsoft's idea of timeliness... the code red fixes come to
mind...

--- erik 

-----Original Message-----
From: evets dranem [mailto:edranem@dranem.org] 
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 21:53
To: vnc-list@realvnc.com
Cc: Erik Soderquist
Subject: Re: Microsoft AntiSpyware Beta

Erik Soderquist wrote:

>what user *chooses* to install microsoft's remote support? 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com [mailto:vnc-list-admin@realvnc.com] On
>Behalf Of evets dranem
>Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 09:26
>To: vnc-list@realvnc.com
>Subject: Re: Microsoft AntiSpyware Beta
>
>Thomas, Robb (Alberni) wrote:
>  
>
>>Just noticed that VNC shows up as a "Moderate Threat" in the beta
>>version of Microsoft anti-spyware.   Meanwhile the remote
support(built into XP) does not show up as a "moderate threat".  Figured
it wouldgive people the 'heads up' before it comes out of beta.
>>
>>Regards,---- Robb ----
>>_______________________________________________
>>    
>>
>Well It is a threat..............
> if the User/ administrator did not install it
>_____________________________________________
>

If an end User or administrator DID NOT Install RealVNC
It would be a threat, Absolutely;
Administrators Already know that XP has remote capabilities
and have [en/dis]abled according to their [group/local
security/firewall] policy

As for Windows Remote Control Nobody CHOOSES to install it;
 although they could preclude it's use
They find out it HAS_BEEN previously installed from the factory
waiting to be initiated with a check mark in a control panel ;
or on-line Chat with MSN or quick email to a support person
bypassing firewall [if chatting is allowed ;-)]
Also they way remote assistance works; the user requests assistance
and by default support personnel have 30 days to complete the request
;-P

I think we see Microsoft's definition of _timeliness_ come into play

Steve
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