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Subject:    Re: [Veritas-ha] SG interaction question
From:       "Eric Hennessey" <eric_hennessey () symantec ! com>
Date:       2006-09-19 16:15:08
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The VCS simulator...learn it, live it, love it. :-)

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From: veritas-ha-bounces@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-ha-bounces@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Jim
Senicka
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:13 AM
To: Steven Sim
Cc: veritas-ha@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-ha] SG interaction question


comments below
 

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From: Steven Sim [mailto:steven.sim@faplccc.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:45 AM
To: Jim Senicka
Cc: veritas-ha@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-ha] SG interaction question


Jim;

What if the situation is such;


*	Two SG, each with it's own Oracle instance. 

*	First SG (Production SG) running on Node 1 and 2nd SG (Test SG)
running on Node 2.
	[Jim Senicka] ProdSG needs SystemList = Node1, Node2. TestSg
SystemList = Node2 
	

*	First SG requires a failover on any critical resource fault. It
cannot run on the same system as the 2nd SG.
	[Jim Senicka] This would be default 
	

*	2nd SG is a test instance and runs only on node 2. No Failover
required for 2nd SG if a critical resource faults. Only shutdown of SG
required.
	[Jim Senicka] Setting a SystemList = Node2 will accomplish this
behavior 
	

*	IF the First SG faults on first node, then 2nd SG must shutdown
automatically on 2nd node to make way for First SG failing over.
Subsequently First SG will failover to 2nd node. 
	[Jim Senicka] Set up prod as child, test as parent with an
offline local depend

*	No fail back of SG if first node recovers. 
	[Jim Senicka] This is default behavior 

If I configure as such;

A system list of only "Node 2" for the 2nd SG (Test SG)
An "Offline local firm" dependency between First SG (Production SG)
(child) and 2nd SG (Test SG) (Parent)
[Jim Senicka] correct 
My question;

IF the Child (Production SG) faults critically, will VCS 5.0 shutdown
the 2nd SG in order to failover the Production SG?
[Jim Senicka] yes
 
Just tested on the Sim.
VCS Simulator is your friend!! 

Warmest Regards
Steven Sim

Jim Senicka wrote: 

	SG with only one system in the system list, and establish an
offline local group dependency from the other group to this one

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	From: veritas-ha-bounces@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-ha-bounces@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of
Evsyukov, Sergey
	Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 5:41 AM
	To: veritas-ha@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
	Subject: [Veritas-ha] SG interaction question
	
	
	Hello,
	 
	We have 2 Oracle DB. One of them is under VCS control and can
switchovers between 2 nodes. Second must run only on one node if there
are no first Oracle instance on it. What the best practice to configure
it? HAtriggers or SG with only one system in it, controlled by link from
second SG?
	 
	 
	Thanks, Sergey 
	
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> veritas-ha-bounces@mailman.eng.auburn.edu 
[mailto:veritas-ha-bounces@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Jim 
Senicka<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:13 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 
Steven Sim<BR><B>Cc:</B> veritas-ha@mailman.eng.auburn.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> 
Re: [Veritas-ha] SG interaction question<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=450105114-19092006><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>comments below</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=450105114-19092006><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV><BR>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Steven Sim [mailto:steven.sim@faplccc.net] 
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:45 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Jim 
Senicka<BR><B>Cc:</B> veritas-ha@mailman.eng.auburn.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: 
[Veritas-ha] SG interaction question<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Jim;<BR><BR>What if the situation is such;<BR>
<UL>
  <LI>Two SG, each with it's own Oracle instance. </LI></UL>
<UL>
  <LI>First SG (Production SG) running on Node 1 and 2nd SG (Test SG) running on 
  Node 2.<BR><SPAN class=450105114-19092006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>[Jim Senicka] ProdSG&nbsp;needs SystemList = Node1, Node2. TestSg 
  SystemList = Node2&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN><BR></LI></UL>
<UL>
  <LI>First SG requires a failover on any critical resource fault. It cannot run 
  on the same system as the 2nd SG.<BR><SPAN class=450105114-19092006><FONT 
  face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>[Jim Senicka]&nbsp;This would be 
  default&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN><BR></LI></UL>
<UL>
  <LI>2nd SG is a test instance and runs only on node 2. No Failover required 
  for 2nd SG if a critical resource faults. Only shutdown of SG 
  required.<BR><SPAN class=450105114-19092006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>[Jim Senicka]&nbsp;Setting a SystemList =&nbsp;Node2 will accomplish 
  this behavior&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN><BR></LI></UL>
<UL>
  <LI>IF the First SG faults on first node, then 2nd SG <B>must shutdown 
  automatically</B> on 2nd node to make way for First SG failing over. 
  Subsequently First SG will failover to 2nd node. <BR><SPAN 
  class=450105114-19092006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>[Jim 
  Senicka]&nbsp;Set up prod as child, test as parent with an offline local 
  depend</FONT></SPAN></LI></UL>
<UL>
  <LI>No fail back of SG if first node recovers. <BR><SPAN 
  class=450105114-19092006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>[Jim 
  Senicka]&nbsp;This is default behavior&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></LI></UL>
<DIV>If I configure as such;<BR><BR>A system list of only "Node 2" for the 2nd 
SG (Test SG)<BR>An "Offline local firm" dependency between First SG (Production 
SG) (child) and 2nd SG (Test SG) (Parent)<BR><SPAN 
class=450105114-19092006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>[Jim 
Senicka]&nbsp;correct&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN><BR>My question;<BR><BR>IF the Child 
(Production SG) faults critically, will VCS 5.0 shutdown the 2nd SG in order to 
failover the Production SG?<BR><SPAN class=450105114-19092006><FONT face=Arial 
color=#0000ff size=2>[Jim Senicka]&nbsp;yes</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=450105114-19092006></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=450105114-19092006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Just 
tested&nbsp;on the Sim.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=450105114-19092006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>VCS 
Simulator is your friend!!</FONT>&nbsp;</SPAN><BR><BR>Warmest Regards<BR>Steven 
Sim<BR><BR>Jim Senicka wrote: </DIV>
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cite=mid7FB50D43FA9B7B4090F811363535A4260752E78A@hroxchcln1.enterprise.veritas.com 
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  <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=999245510-19092006><FONT face=Arial 
  color=#0000ff size=2>SG with only one system in the system list, and establish 
  an offline local group dependency from the other group to this 
  one</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left>
  <HR tabIndex=-1>
  <FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated 
  href="mailto:veritas-ha-bounces@mailman.eng.auburn.edu">veritas-ha-bounces@mailman.eng.auburn.edu</A> \
  [<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext 
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  <B>On Behalf Of </B>Evsyukov, Sergey<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 19, 
  2006 5:41 AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated 
  href="mailto:veritas-ha@mailman.eng.auburn.edu">veritas-ha@mailman.eng.auburn.edu</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> \
  [Veritas-ha] SG interaction question<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=484222109-19092006>Hello,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=484222109-19092006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=484222109-19092006>We have 2 Oracle 
  DB. One of them is under VCS control and can switchovers between 2 nodes. 
  Second must run only on one node if there are no first Oracle instance on it. 
  What the best practice to configure it? HAtriggers or SG with only one system 
  in it, controlled by link from second SG?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=484222109-19092006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=484222109-19092006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=484222109-19092006>Thanks<SPAN 
  class=114214009-19092006>,</SPAN> Sergey&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV><PRE \
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