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From:       "Clem Kruger" <Clem () re-thinking-it ! com>
Date:       2006-12-22 16:25:27
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Good day,

 

You should look at the HBA on the client and also on the data switch.
The other area to look at is how the fabric has been set up. All of
these will affect the through-put.

 

One last thing to look at is to ensure that the outgoing anti-virus is
turned off during the backup as the application will try to open each
file before backing it up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kind Regards,

Clem Kruger

Senior Consultant Technology

Cabangisisa IT Solutions 

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From: veritas-bu-bounces@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Weber,
Philip
Sent: 21 December 2006 17:27 PM
To: Steve Fogarty; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup of Large Windows Volume

 

It's a SAN-based volume so I'm not too worried about this, we do it
elsewhere.  Will have to keep an eye on it but current performance stats
indicate I should be able to get the data off the disks faster with
multiple streams.

	-----Original Message-----
	From: Steve Fogarty [mailto:steve.fogarty@gmail.com] 
	Sent: 21 December 2006 15:16
	To: Weber, Philip; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
	Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backup of Large Windows Volume

	I don't think you want to have seperate streams from the same
physical disk.  This is from the Admin Doc.

	 

	"For best performance, use only one data stream to back up each
physical device on the 
	client. Multiple concurrent streams from a single physical
device can adversely affect 
	backup times because the heads must move back and forth between
tracks containing files 
	for the respective streams."

	 

	Your selections would probably "thrash" the disk pretty hard.

	 

	Steve

	 

	 

	 

	
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	From: veritas-bu-bounces@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Weber,
Philip
	Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:45 AM
	To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
	Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backup of Large Windows Volume

	NetBackup 5.1 MP5, Solaris 9 master/media servers. 

	I have a Windows 2000 client with approx 900 Gb D: drive which I
want to split into multiple streams, e.g. 

	Stream 1 : 
	D:\Shares\shareddata\All Departments\folder1 (100 Gb) 

	Stream 2 : 
	D:\Shares\shareddata\All Departments (the rest - 130 Gb) 

	Stream 3 : 
	D:\Shares\shareddata\folder1 (160 Gb) 

	Stream 4 : 
	D:\Shares\shareddata\folder2 (52 Gb) 
	D:\Shares\shareddata\folder3 (52 Gb) 

	Stream 5 : 
	D:\Shares\shareddata (the rest - 270 Gb) 

	Stream 6 : 
	D:\Shares (the rest - 130 Gb) 

	As far as I can see I'll have to create separate policies for
all of these, in order to be able to use exclude lists to prevent
duplication of backups.  Is there some way that I have missed where I
can add these all to one policy using NEW_STREAM, and not get
duplication of data?

	thanks, Phil 

	Phil Weber 
	Business Technology (Egg) 
	Storage Technical Services - Senior UNIX Technologist 

	
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>One last thing to look at is to ensure
that the outgoing anti-virus is turned off during the backup as the application
will try to open each file before backing it up.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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veritas-bu-bounces@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Weber, Philip<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 21 December 2006 17:27 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Steve Fogarty;
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Veritas-bu] Backup
of Large Windows Volume</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>It's a SAN-based volume so I'm not too
worried about this, we do it elsewhere.&nbsp; Will have to keep an eye on it
but current performance stats indicate I should be able to get the data off the
disks faster with multiple streams.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Steve Fogarty
[mailto:steve.fogarty@gmail.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 21 December 2006 15:16<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Weber, Philip;
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Veritas-bu] Backup
of Large Windows Volume</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I don't think you want to have seperate
streams from the same physical disk.&nbsp; This is from the Admin \
Doc.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>&quot;For best performance, use only one
data stream to back up each physical device on the <br>
client. Multiple concurrent streams from a single physical device can adversely
affect <br>
backup times because the heads must move back and forth between tracks
containing files <br>
for the respective streams.&quot;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Your selections would probably
&quot;thrash&quot; the disk pretty hard.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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veritas-bu-bounces@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Weber, Philip<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, December 21, 2006
10:45 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Veritas-bu] Backup of
Large Windows Volume</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'><!-- Converted from text/rtf format -->NetBackup 5.1 MP5, Solaris 9
master/media servers.</span></font><span lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>I have a Windows 2000 client with approx 900 Gb D: drive which I want to
split into multiple streams, e.g.</span></font><span lang=EN-GB> \
</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Stream 1 :</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>D:\Shares\shareddata\All Departments\folder1 (100 Gb)</span></font><span
lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Stream 2 :</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>D:\Shares\shareddata\All Departments (the rest - 130 Gb)</span></font><span
lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Stream 3 :</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>D:\Shares\shareddata\folder1 (160 Gb)</span></font><span lang=EN-GB> \
</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Stream 4 :</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>D:\Shares\shareddata\folder2 (52 Gb)</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>D:\Shares\shareddata\folder3 (52 Gb)</span></font><span lang=EN-GB> \
</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Stream 5 :</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>D:\Shares\shareddata (the rest - 270 Gb)</span></font><span lang=EN-GB> \
</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Stream 6 :</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>D:\Shares (the rest - 130 Gb)</span></font><span lang=EN-GB> \
</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>As far as I can see I'll have to create separate policies for all of
these, in order to be able to use exclude lists to prevent duplication of
backups.&nbsp; Is there some way that I have missed where I can add these all
to one policy using NEW_STREAM, and not get duplication of \
data?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>thanks, Phil</span></font><span lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Phil Weber</span></font></b> <br>
<font size=2 color=gray face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:gray'>Business Technology (Egg)</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 color=gray face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:gray'>Storage Technical Services - Senior UNIX
Technologist</span></font><span lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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font-weight:bold'><br>
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">Egg is a trading name of the Egg group
of companies which includes:</font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">Egg plc (reg no 2448340), Egg Financial
Intermediation Ltd (reg no</font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">3828289), and Egg Banking plc (reg no
2999842). Egg Banking plc and</font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">Egg Financial Intermediation Ltd are
authorised and regulated by</font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">the Financial Services Authority (FSA)
and are entered in the FSA</font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">register under numbers 205621 and
309551 respectively. These</font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">members of the Egg group are registered
in <st1:country-region w:st="on">England</st1:country-region> and <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place \
w:st="on">Wales</st1:place></st1:country-region>.</font></b></strong><br> \
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">Registered office: Laurence Pountney Hill, \
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">London</st1:place></st1:City> EC4R \
0HH.</font></b></strong><br> <br>
<br>
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">This e-mail is confidential and for use
by the addressee only. If</font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">you are not the intended recipient of
this e-mail and have received</font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">it in error, please return the message
to the sender by replying to</font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">it and then delete it from your
mailbox. Internet e-mails are not</font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">necessarily secure. The Egg group of
companies do not accept</font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">responsibility for changes made to this
message after it was sent.</font></b></strong><br>
<br>
<br>
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">Whilst all reasonable care has been
taken to avoid the transmission</font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">of viruses, it is the responsibility of
the recipient to ensure</font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">that the onward transmission, opening
or use of this message and</font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">any attachments will not adversely
affect its systems or data. No</font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">responsibility is accepted by the Egg
group of companies in this</font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">regard and the recipient should carry
out such virus and other</font></b></strong><br>
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">checks as it considers \
appropriate.</font></b></strong><br> <br>
<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">This communication does not create or
modify any contract.</font></b></strong></span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>

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