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Subject: =?utf-8?q?=5Bovirt-devel=5D?= Re: oVirt migration to stable OS?
From: Sandro Bonazzola <sbonazzo () redhat ! com>
Date: 2022-05-17 7:28:07
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Il giorno lun 16 mag 2022 alle ore 18:09 <stuart.tener@bh90210.net> ha
scritto:
> Sandro,
>
> I am sorry for picking the wrong forum to post into, it seemed a naturally
> correct place because I was suggesting a shift in the development choices
> being made for oVirt and how it is produced.
>
> I hear what you are saying. However, that means that all the ISOs that are
> published for people to download based on CentOS are going to be viewed by
> the Linux community that has an interest in trying oVirt as a potential
> learning path to RHV as alpha/beta quality. CentOS since "going upstream"
> has been heavily devalued by the open source community for useful testing
> or any real work. Again, that is just a fact or people would not be in a
> mad rush to move to Rocky Linux or Alma Linux. At any rate, just my two
> cents worth which may be all my opinion is worth! :)
>
> I am not trying to be argumentative, just I think that supplying oVirt
> using an underpinning OS that is quality based as opposed to CentOS would
> be a worthy endeavor to encourage interest in oVirt.
>
> Although I have not had a chance to gather and post the facts together, I
> did try to do an install of it in my ProxMox virtualized environment (again
> for testing) and met with a number of issues causing a failed installation
> and eventually gave up. Now that I realize it is CentOS based, I am not
> even think it is worth dealing with as the result will not be a production
> quality install. I will read the link you provided regarding installing
> oVirt on REL or a "derivative clone".
>
> Thanks for your most brisk and thoughtful response and I wish you a
> healthy and safe day in these challenging times.
>
With regards to ISOs and appliance, I got in touch with both Alma Linux and
Rocky Linux explaining how to build an oVirt Node ISO based on their own
repositories so they can ship them through their mirrors. Also discussed on
https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/LLKJKW22FAYPY2GOGNHXVABKSIWT7IMG/
Issue is we lack capacity and resources for rebuilding oVirt for all
possible CentOS Stream derivatives. So I would be happy to help Rocky and
Alma rebuild their own flavor of oVirt Node but we can't really commit to
maintaining those builds and keeping them tested.
--
Sandro Bonazzola
MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA R&D RHV
Red Hat EMEA <https://www.redhat.com/>
sbonazzo@redhat.com
<https://www.redhat.com/>
*Red Hat respects your work life balance. Therefore there is no need to
answer this email out of your office hours.*
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class="gmail_attr">Il giorno lun 16 mag 2022 alle ore 18:09 <<a \
href="mailto:stuart.tener@bh90210.net">stuart.tener@bh90210.net</a>> ha \
scritto:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Sandro,<br> <br>
I am sorry for picking the wrong forum to post into, it seemed a naturally correct \
place because I was suggesting a shift in the development choices being made for \
oVirt and how it is produced.<br> <br>
I hear what you are saying. However, that means that all the ISOs that are published \
for people to download based on CentOS are going to be viewed by the Linux community \
that has an interest in trying oVirt as a potential learning path to RHV as \
alpha/beta quality. CentOS since "going upstream" has been heavily devalued \
by the open source community for useful testing or any real work. Again, that is just \
a fact or people would not be in a mad rush to move to Rocky Linux or Alma Linux. At \
any rate, just my two cents worth which may be all my opinion is worth! :)<br> <br>
I am not trying to be argumentative, just I think that supplying oVirt using an \
underpinning OS that is quality based as opposed to CentOS would be a worthy endeavor \
to encourage interest in oVirt.<br> <br>
Although I have not had a chance to gather and post the facts together, I did try to \
do an install of it in my ProxMox virtualized environment (again for testing) and met \
with a number of issues causing a failed installation and eventually gave up. Now \
that I realize it is CentOS based, I am not even think it is worth dealing with as \
the result will not be a production quality install. I will read the link you \
provided regarding installing oVirt on REL or a "derivative clone".<br> \
<br> Thanks for your most brisk and thoughtful response and I wish you a healthy and \
safe day in these challenging times.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>With regards \
to ISOs and appliance, I got in touch with both Alma Linux and Rocky Linux \
explaining how to build an oVirt Node ISO based on their own repositories so they can \
ship them through their mirrors. Also discussed on <a \
href="https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/LLKJKW22FAYPY2GOGN \
HXVABKSIWT7IMG/">https://lists.ovirt.org/archives/list/users@ovirt.org/message/LLKJKW22FAYPY2GOGNHXVABKSIWT7IMG/</a> \
</div><div>Issue is we lack capacity and resources for rebuilding oVirt for all \
possible CentOS Stream derivatives. So I would be happy to help Rocky and Alma \
rebuild their own flavor of oVirt Node but we can't really commit to maintaining \
those builds and keeping them tested.</div><div> <br></div></div>-- <br><div \
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style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:RedHatText,sans-serif;font-weight:bold;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-size:14px"><span>Sandro</span> \
<span>Bonazzola</span><span \
style="text-transform:uppercase;color:rgb(170,170,170);margin:0px"></span></p><p \
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:RedHatText,sans-serif;font-size:12px;margin:0px"><span>MANAGER, \
SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA R&D RHV</span></p><p \
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:RedHatText,sans-serif;margin:0px 0px \
4px;font-size:12px"><a href="https://www.redhat.com/" \
style="color:rgb(0,136,206);margin:0px" target="_blank">Red Hat \
<span>EMEA</span></a></p><div \
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style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><a href="mailto:sbonazzo@redhat.com" \
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);margin:0px" target="_blank">sbonazzo@redhat.com</a> \
</span></p><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:RedHatText,sans-serif;font-size:medium;margin-top:12px"><div \
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