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Subject: Re: [USRP-users] Support of NI RIO 2953R with UBX daughter boards in LabView
From: Michael West via USRP-users <usrp-users () lists ! ettus ! com>
Date: 2016-10-27 19:35:21
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Hi Piotr,
Officially, National Instruments support should be contacted to aid in the
process, but it should be possible. Aside from that, this app note
<https://kb.ettus.com/Converting_an_X310_into_an_NI-USRP_Rio> may be of
interest.
Regards,
Michael
On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Piotr Krysik <perper@o2.pl> wrote:
> Hi Michael and others,
>
> Thank you for the quick answer.
>
> Is it possible to make LabView recognize and X310 motherboard as
> different type of USRP RIO than original one? For example to make it
> recognize NI RIO 2953R as NI RIO 2954R (that comes with UBX-160)?
>
> I suppose that there might be obstacles for Ettus to answer this
> question, as it might go contrary to the mother company's politics.
> Nonetheless I will ask it :).
>
> Best Regards,
> Piotr Krysik
>
> W dniu 27.10.2016 o 18:10, Michael West pisze:
> > Hi Piotr,
> >
> > LabView sees the the USRP RIO device as a single device inclusive of
> > motherboard and daughterboards, so changing the daughterboards makes
> > it unrecognizable to LabView. This is done intentionally to limit the
> > number of configurations for things like calibration routines and
> > other LabView features. UHD can recognize any combination of
> > motherboard and daughterboards, but it is a lower level driver and
> > does not provide an application feature set like LabView.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Michael
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 7:08 AM, Piotr Krysik via USRP-users
> > <usrp-users@lists.ettus.com <mailto:usrp-users@lists.ettus.com>> wrote:
> >
> > W dniu 27.10.2016 o 12:25, Piotr Krysik via USRP-users pisze:
> > > I want to ask on behalf of my colleagues who use USRPs together
> with
> > > LabView.
> > >
> > > We have USRP RIO 2953R boards that come with CBX 120 daughter
> > boards.
> > > I've replaced CBX 120 boards with UBX 160 boards.
> > >
> > > >From my perspective as GNU Radio and UHD user different USRP RIOs
> > > starting with 2940 are just X310 boards. I can put in them any
> > daughter
> > > boards I want (WBX, SBX, CBX, UBX) and they just work.
> > >
> > > For LabView however it seems that is not possible to replace
> > daughter
> > > board in USRP RIO with daughter board that wasn't originally
> > meant to be
> > > put inside. While various LabView examples worked for the
> originally
> > > configured USRP RIO 2953, with UBX 160 there is some problem to
> make
> > > them work.
> > >
> > > NI Support told us that it is not possible to change daughter
> > > boards type in USRP RIOs and keep them working with LabView.
> > They say
> > > for example that USRP RIO 2953R is not compatible with UBX-160.
> > >
> > > My question to the list: is it true that it is not possible to
> > use with
> > > LabView USRP RIOs with daughter boards changed to daughter boards
> of
> > > another type?
> > >
> > > If this is false - can you provide some example LabView code
> > that works
> > > with USRP RIOs that have UBX boards inside?
> > To add a bit more information I attach the error message that was
> > obtained for USRP RIO 2953R with UBX-160.
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> > Piotr Krysik
> >
>
>
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<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Hi Piotr,<br><br></div>Officially, National Instruments \
support should be contacted to aid in the process, but it should be possible. Aside \
from that, <a href="https://kb.ettus.com/Converting_an_X310_into_an_NI-USRP_Rio">this \
app note</a> may be of interest.<br><br></div>Regards,<br></div>Michael<br></div><div \
class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 11:48 AM, \
Piotr Krysik <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:perper@o2.pl" \
target="_blank">perper@o2.pl</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" \
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Michael and \
others,<br> <br>
Thank you for the quick answer.<br>
<br>
Is it possible to make LabView recognize and X310 motherboard as<br>
different type of USRP RIO than original one? For example to make it<br>
recognize NI RIO 2953R as NI RIO 2954R (that comes with UBX-160)?<br>
<br>
I suppose that there might be obstacles for Ettus to answer this<br>
question, as it might go contrary to the mother company's politics.<br>
Nonetheless I will ask it :).<br>
<br>
Best Regards,<br>
Piotr Krysik<br>
<br>
W dniu 27.10.2016 o 18:10, Michael West pisze:<br>
<span class="im HOEnZb">> Hi Piotr,<br>
><br>
> LabView sees the the USRP RIO device as a single device inclusive of<br>
> motherboard and daughterboards, so changing the daughterboards makes<br>
> it unrecognizable to LabView. This is done intentionally to limit the<br>
> number of configurations for things like calibration routines and<br>
> other LabView features. UHD can recognize any combination of<br>
> motherboard and daughterboards, but it is a lower level driver and<br>
> does not provide an application feature set like LabView.<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> Michael<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 7:08 AM, Piotr Krysik via USRP-users<br>
</span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">> <<a \
href="mailto:usrp-users@lists.ettus.com">usrp-users@lists.ettus.com</a> <mailto:<a \
href="mailto:usrp-users@lists.ettus.com">usrp-users@lists.<wbr>ettus.com</a>>> \
wrote:<br> ><br>
> W dniu 27.10.2016 o 12:25, Piotr Krysik via USRP-users pisze:<br>
> > I want to ask on behalf of my colleagues who use USRPs together \
with<br> > > LabView.<br>
> ><br>
> > We have USRP RIO 2953R boards that come with CBX 120 daughter<br>
> boards.<br>
> > I've replaced CBX 120 boards with UBX 160 boards.<br>
> ><br>
> > >From my perspective as GNU Radio and UHD user different USRP \
RIOs<br> > > starting with 2940 are just X310 boards. I can put in them \
any<br> > daughter<br>
> > boards I want (WBX, SBX, CBX, UBX) and they just work.<br>
> ><br>
> > For LabView however it seems that is not possible to replace<br>
> daughter<br>
> > board in USRP RIO with daughter board that wasn't originally<br>
> meant to be<br>
> > put inside. While various LabView examples worked for the \
originally<br> > > configured USRP RIO 2953, with UBX 160 there is some \
problem to make<br> > > them work.<br>
> ><br>
> > NI Support told us that it is not possible to change daughter<br>
> > boards type in USRP RIOs and keep them working with LabView.<br>
> They say<br>
> > for example that USRP RIO 2953R is not compatible with UBX-160.<br>
> ><br>
> > My question to the list: is it true that it is not possible to<br>
> use with<br>
> > LabView USRP RIOs with daughter boards changed to daughter boards \
of<br> > > another type?<br>
> ><br>
> > If this is false - can you provide some example LabView code<br>
> that works<br>
> > with USRP RIOs that have UBX boards inside?<br>
> To add a bit more information I attach the error message that was<br>
> obtained for USRP RIO 2953R with UBX-160.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Best Regards,<br>
> Piotr Krysik<br>
><br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
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