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Subject: Re: [unison-users] perms=0 Doesn't Work?
From: "Adrian Klaver adrian.klaver () aklaver ! com [unison-users]" <unison-users-noreply () y
Date: 2014-09-30 17:42:13
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On 09/30/2014 10:21 AM, Brian wrote:
> Adrian,
>
> Thank you for your replies.
>
> perms=0 does not work at all times when I sync between Mac OSX (unix or linux like) \
> and a Windows FAT32 USB drive plugged into the Mac laptop. In other words, I \
> always get many perm mismatches, where the perms are the only mismatch.
> fat=true is not a foundational option, so I do not use it because it hides the \
> options that are implied. Instead, I use the foundational options that fat=true \
> implies:
> perms = 0
> dontchmod = true
> ignorecase = true
Alright I see.
Two things:
1) Might want to run unison debug to see what exactly it is finding
different.
2) My suspicion is that the 1) is going find it has to do with OS X file
resource forks. I am going down this path based on information from your
first post:
'When using the GUI, the display sometimes shows the mismatched bits as
"uknown permissions" or "000/000/000/000" or "XLS8" or "XCEL".'
For more info see here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resource_fork
"Currently, OS X supports resource forks on Windows SMB shares by
creating a hidden file in the same directory with the data fork file,
with the characters "._" at the beginning of the file name. However,
this may be annoying for some users, especially because some Windows
power users always keep hidden files visible. Besides, Windows does not
treat those files correctly as the file itself is moved or removed. A
few resource fork files created by OS X on an SMB share can be disabled
by an Apple supported action"
Best guess OS X is mounting the FAT USB as an SMB share.
Where the Apple supported action is:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1629
>
> As explained in the Unison manual, I "need Unison not to set permissions at all, \
> [so I] set the value of this preference to 0 and set the preference dontchmod to \
> true."
--
Adrian Klaver
adrian.klaver@aklaver.com
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<p>On 09/30/2014 10:21 AM, Brian wrote:<br>
> Adrian,<br>
><br>
> Thank you for your replies.<br>
><br>
> perms=0 does not work at all times when I sync between Mac OSX (unix or linux \
like) and a Windows FAT32 USB drive plugged into the Mac laptop. In other words, I \
always get many perm mismatches, where the perms are the only mismatch.<br> ><br>
> fat=true is not a foundational option, so I do not use it because it hides the \
options that are implied. Instead, I use the foundational options that fat=true \
implies:<br> ><br>
> perms = 0<br>
> dontchmod = true<br>
> ignorecase = true<br>
<br>
Alright I see.<br>
<br>
Two things:<br>
<br>
1) Might want to run unison debug to see what exactly it is finding <br>
different.<br>
<br>
2) My suspicion is that the 1) is going find it has to do with OS X file <br>
resource forks. I am going down this path based on information from your <br>
first post:<br>
'When using the GUI, the display sometimes shows the mismatched bits as<br>
"uknown permissions" or "000/000/000/000" or "XLS8" or \
"XCEL".'<br> <br>
For more info see here:<br>
<br>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resource_fork<br>
<br>
"Currently, OS X supports resource forks on Windows SMB shares by <br>
creating a hidden file in the same directory with the data fork file, <br>
with the characters "._" at the beginning of the file name. However, <br>
this may be annoying for some users, especially because some Windows <br>
power users always keep hidden files visible. Besides, Windows does not <br>
treat those files correctly as the file itself is moved or removed. A <br>
few resource fork files created by OS X on an SMB share can be disabled <br>
by an Apple supported action"<br>
<br>
Best guess OS X is mounting the FAT USB as an SMB share.<br>
<br>
Where the Apple supported action is:<br>
<br>
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1629<br>
<br>
><br>
> As explained in the Unison manual, I "need Unison not to set permissions at \
all, [so I] set the value of this preference to 0 and set the preference dontchmod to \
true."<br> ><br>
<br>
-- <br>
Adrian Klaver<br>
adrian.klaver@aklaver.com<br>
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