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Today's Topics:
1. sa-learn (John Dangler)
2. Re: OpenOffice 2.2 Released - Ubuntu? (NoOp)
3. Re: Ubuntu Server with LTSP in real life (Michael T. Richter)
4. Re: Possible upgrade problem (Jim Smith)
5. Re: sa-learn (NoOp)
6. Re: Network Manager and ADSL Dynamic IP (NoOp)
7. Re: Network Manager and ADSL Dynamic IP (L M Nicolosi)
8. Re: sa-learn (John Dangler)
9. Re: sa-learn (NoOp)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 20:16:21 -0400
From: John Dangler <jdangler at atlantic.net>
Subject: sa-learn
To: Ubuntu User List <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <1175300181.2104.198.camel at croatus>
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Well, I've been moving messages to 'Possible_Spam' for the last 6 hours,
and running:
sa-learn --spam --mbox ./Possible_Spam
against that mailbox...
On average, I still get 60 messages every hour which I recognize as
spam, yet sa-learn doesn't seem to get it yet...
Is there a point in time where SA begins to actually take a shot at
handling this?
I'd like to teach it --ham as well, but the last time I ran this against
my Inbox, it said that it read 3,200 messages (which is everything in
mbox, including the spam, and those directories aren't listed _under_
inbox).
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:18:25 -0700
From: NoOp <glgxg at mfire.com>
Subject: Re: OpenOffice 2.2 Released - Ubuntu?
To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
Message-ID: <euk9c2$84o$1 at sea.gmane.org>
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On 03/30/2007 05:29 AM, Felipe Figueiredo wrote:
> On Friday 30 March 2007 01:04:15 NoOp wrote:
>> OOo 2.2 has just been released today: http://www.openoffice.org/
>> http://download.openoffice.org/2.2.0/index.html
>>
>> Any plans for updates using this version vs the 2.2(rc3) version?
>> Or are they the same?
Updated today to 2.2 final - thanks Matthias & team :-)
>
>> As an added point - why are the Dapper and Edgy versions so far
>> behind 2.2?
>
> This is never asked/answered too many times, is it? Dapper is LTS, so
> it must be stable in the sense of a non-changing environment. This
> means packages will retain their version whenever possible, and only
> security packages backported. So for the next two years, all Dapper
> installations will remain with the same version of every package
> (except on the exceptions, of course).
I see. So *that* is the reason why it'll be stuck at 2.02 - thanks for
pointing that out...
http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/editors/openoffice.org
The problem is resolved by uninstalling 2.0x and installing 2.1 or 2.2
directly from OOo. However, 2.02 came and went some time ago & it would
be nice to run 2.1 or 2.2 from the Ubuntu repositories in Dapper.
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 09:05:36 +0800
From: "Michael T. Richter" <ttmrichter at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Ubuntu Server with LTSP in real life
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
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On Fri, 2007-30-03 at 03:37 -0500, Brian Fahrlander wrote:
> Second, Paul, that's very cool; I started in LTSP back when
> Etherboot had just changed over, probably about 1996-97. I had 12
users
> running old tired 486's in a lumber yard, and only a couple of things
> caused me grief:
Aren't diskless workstations just another word for "single point of
massive failure"? I've never understood the appeal in this day and age
where you can get old P/P2 (and even P3) hardware complete with disk for
a song and a dance. What am I missing?
--
Michael T. Richter <ttmrichter at gmail.com> (GoogleTalk:
ttmrichter at gmail.com)
We should sell bloat credits, the way the government sells pollution
credits. Everybody's assigned a certain amount of bloat, and if they go
over, they have to purchase bloat credits from some other group that's
been more careful. (Bent Hagemark)
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:03:48 -0700
From: Jim Smith <jim at oz.net>
Subject: Re: Possible upgrade problem
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
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Gabriel Dragffy wrote:
> Jim Smith wrote:
>
>> I have been asked to upgrade a friend's computer from dapper to
edgy.
>> This is a triple boot AMD64 system: Ubuntu 6.06 (default boot), SuSE
>> 10.2 & WinXP Home. Booting is presently controlled by GRUB in the
SuSE
>> partition. I can see a problem arising with this configuration. The
>> upgrade to Edgy will install a new kernel, which will be added to
>> menu.lst in the Ubuntu partition. If the old kernel is removed in
the
>> upgrade, this could leave the system unbootable. If not of course I
can
>> boot the old kernel, go in and copy the version of the new kernel, go
to
>> SuSE and add the new kernel using YaST. A simpler choice would be to
>> make GRUB in the Ubuntu partition the default, but I am not quite
sure
>> how to do this. I just need to be able to boot Edgy, then I can add
>> WinXP and SuSE by hand if necessary.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>
> When you upgrade it will install a new kernel, so you are correct in
> that regards. However, it will not remove your previous kernel (from
> Edgy) so you should still be able to boot. It would be best if you can
> do the update and then copy the new lines from menu.lst in Ubuntu and
> append them to the menu.lst on SuSe.
>
>
I was actually thinking of doing that the other way round. Then I could
install the bootloader from Ubuntu into the MBR. All I need is to have
Ubuntu boot. I can copy the WinXP from this system (or from memory) and
then append SuSE to menu.lst. SuSE is only experimental on that system.
Ubuntu is most important and is what that person uses the most.
Many thanks
Jim
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:15:03 -0700
From: NoOp <glgxg at mfire.com>
Subject: Re: sa-learn
To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
Message-ID: <eukcm9$tca$1 at sea.gmane.org>
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On 03/30/2007 05:16 PM, John Dangler wrote:
> Well, I've been moving messages to 'Possible_Spam' for the last 6
hours,
> and running:
> sa-learn --spam --mbox ./Possible_Spam
>
> against that mailbox...
>
> On average, I still get 60 messages every hour which I recognize as
> spam, yet sa-learn doesn't seem to get it yet...
>
> Is there a point in time where SA begins to actually take a shot at
> handling this?
>
> I'd like to teach it --ham as well, but the last time I ran this
against
> my Inbox, it said that it read 3,200 messages (which is everything in
> mbox, including the spam, and those directories aren't listed _under_
> inbox).
>
>
>
>
Since installing SA yesterday, I've received 40 more spams; every one
except the one that I mentioned in my other post yesterday has been
automatically flagged as spam and automatically moved to the Junk
folder. I've received no false positives yet.
Note:
- Running Feisty
- Evolution 2.10.0
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:28:46 -0700
From: NoOp <glgxg at mfire.com>
Subject: Re: Network Manager and ADSL Dynamic IP
To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
Message-ID: <eukdfv$2uk$1 at sea.gmane.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
On 03/29/2007 10:06 PM, L M Nicolosi wrote:
> A couple of days ago upgraded to Feisty and can't auto connect to ADSL
> provider anymore.
>
> Network Manager reports DNS correctly (probably from
> System/Administration/Network) but assigns an IP for a (non existent)
> local net such as: 192.168.1.10 / 192.168.1.63.
>
> After "poff dsl-provider" and "pon dsl-provider" in terminal,
connection
> is restored and dynamic IPs are correctly assigned such as:
> 201.1.152.58 (local) / 200.100.11.252 (remote).
>
> Plog and Ifconfig confirm true net status.
>
> Network Manager keeps reporting active network but with the same fake
> local IPs.
>
> Kept etc/network/interfaces trimmed to the minimum with no reference
to
> eth, but it didn't seem to make any difference but clear the
> System/Administration/Network/WiredConnections option.
>
> Previous 6.10 version was working perfectly with pppoeconf.
>
> Did not find this bug reported anywhere. Maybe anything related to
> previous scripts left by 6.10 install?
>
>
> L M Nicolosi
>
Today's updates allowed me to remove network-manager and
network-manager-gnome _without_ uninstalling ubuntu-desktop. Apparently
they've been unbundled from the meta package.
Reconfigured my static wired IP's in System|Administration|Networking,
check to make sure all was working, rebooted (hard boot) and viola! all
of my networking works again at startup :-)
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:06:21 -0300
From: L M Nicolosi <lmario at philippe.com.br>
Subject: Re: Network Manager and ADSL Dynamic IP
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <460DC21D.1070506 at philippe.com.br>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Sorry for the entry.
Its working fine.
Boot up today and it suddenly came to life. Maybe the latest upgrades
had something to do with it.
Tks,
Lucio
NoOp wrote:
> On 03/29/2007 10:06 PM, L M Nicolosi wrote:
>
>> A couple of days ago upgraded to Feisty and can't auto connect to
ADSL
>> provider anymore.
>>
>> Network Manager reports DNS correctly (probably from
>> System/Administration/Network) but assigns an IP for a (non existent)
>> local net such as: 192.168.1.10 / 192.168.1.63.
>>
>> After "poff dsl-provider" and "pon dsl-provider" in terminal,
connection
>> is restored and dynamic IPs are correctly assigned such as:
>> 201.1.152.58 (local) / 200.100.11.252 (remote).
>>
>> Plog and Ifconfig confirm true net status.
>>
>> Network Manager keeps reporting active network but with the same fake
>> local IPs.
>>
>> Kept etc/network/interfaces trimmed to the minimum with no reference
to
>> eth, but it didn't seem to make any difference but clear the
>> System/Administration/Network/WiredConnections option.
>>
>> Previous 6.10 version was working perfectly with pppoeconf.
>>
>> Did not find this bug reported anywhere. Maybe anything related to
>> previous scripts left by 6.10 install?
>>
>>
>> L M Nicolosi
>>
>>
>
> Today's updates allowed me to remove network-manager and
> network-manager-gnome _without_ uninstalling ubuntu-desktop.
Apparently
> they've been unbundled from the meta package.
>
> Reconfigured my static wired IP's in System|Administration|Networking,
> check to make sure all was working, rebooted (hard boot) and viola!
all
> of my networking works again at startup :-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:28:30 -0400
From: John Dangler <jdangler at atlantic.net>
Subject: Re: sa-learn
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <1175308110.2104.209.camel at croatus>
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On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 18:15 -0700, NoOp wrote:
> On 03/30/2007 05:16 PM, John Dangler wrote:
> > Well, I've been moving messages to 'Possible_Spam' for the last 6
hours,
> > and running:
> > sa-learn --spam --mbox ./Possible_Spam
> >
> > against that mailbox...
> >
> > On average, I still get 60 messages every hour which I recognize as
> > spam, yet sa-learn doesn't seem to get it yet...
> >
> > Is there a point in time where SA begins to actually take a shot at
> > handling this?
> >
> > I'd like to teach it --ham as well, but the last time I ran this
against
> > my Inbox, it said that it read 3,200 messages (which is everything
in
> > mbox, including the spam, and those directories aren't listed
_under_
> > inbox).
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Since installing SA yesterday, I've received 40 more spams; every one
> except the one that I mentioned in my other post yesterday has been
> automatically flagged as spam and automatically moved to the Junk
> folder. I've received no false positives yet.
>
> Note:
> - Running Feisty
> - Evolution 2.10.0
Edgy
Evolution 2.8.1
Well, maybe I'm doing something (or note doing something) that you
aren't/are... but I just looked in junk, and there are almost 1600
messages in there... WOW! (only 3 marked as spam)... Could I just empty
the junk folder and see if all of this activity is SA and not leftover
from me putting them there?
(If that's really SA's doing - even though it's not marking them all
explicitly yet, I'm really impressed with the performance...)
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:40:42 -0700
From: NoOp <glgxg at mfire.com>
Subject: Re: sa-learn
To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
Message-ID: <eukhmq$s1l$1 at sea.gmane.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
On 03/30/2007 07:28 PM, John Dangler wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 18:15 -0700, NoOp wrote:
>> On 03/30/2007 05:16 PM, John Dangler wrote:
>> > Well, I've been moving messages to 'Possible_Spam' for the last 6
hours,
>> > and running:
>> > sa-learn --spam --mbox ./Possible_Spam
>> >
>> > against that mailbox...
>> >
>> > On average, I still get 60 messages every hour which I recognize as
>> > spam, yet sa-learn doesn't seem to get it yet...
>> >
>> > Is there a point in time where SA begins to actually take a shot at
>> > handling this?
>> >
>> > I'd like to teach it --ham as well, but the last time I ran this
against
>> > my Inbox, it said that it read 3,200 messages (which is everything
in
>> > mbox, including the spam, and those directories aren't listed
_under_
>> > inbox).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Since installing SA yesterday, I've received 40 more spams; every one
>> except the one that I mentioned in my other post yesterday has been
>> automatically flagged as spam and automatically moved to the Junk
>> folder. I've received no false positives yet.
>>
>> Note:
>> - Running Feisty
>> - Evolution 2.10.0
> Edgy
> Evolution 2.8.1
>
> Well, maybe I'm doing something (or note doing something) that you
> aren't/are... but I just looked in junk, and there are almost 1600
> messages in there... WOW! (only 3 marked as spam)... Could I just
empty
> the junk folder and see if all of this activity is SA and not leftover
> from me putting them there?
> (If that's really SA's doing - even though it's not marking them all
> explicitly yet, I'm really impressed with the performance...)
If they are there, they are most likely spam. Just click on one and see
if the "Not-Junk" lights up. I'd delete them all, empty your trash,
close Evo & start fresh. Can't hurt & you'll certainly soon find out if
it is working.
BTW: do you have the catch-all turned on for your email address? If so,
turn it off & I'm sure that you'll stop receiving so many.
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