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Subject:    Re: Should Ubuntu systemd journal logs be persistent by default?
From:       Mark Stosberg <mark () rideamigos ! com>
Date:       2017-11-17 17:10:58
Message-ID: CAHErw3Xi7_RXYnih08kmcLukg4ByXXqo1bQG4d3-JbYnMr6_ow () mail ! gmail ! com
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Jan,

As noted in the linked bug report, there are some logs which are uniquely
stored in the systemd journal, the journal is not persistent-by-default,
and data loss is occurring as a default behavior.

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 11:21 AM Jan Claeys <lists@janc.be> wrote:

> On Mon, 2017-11-13 at 16:12 +0000, Mark Stosberg wrote:
> > *"For a standard Ubuntu Maverick (10.10) system, the output will be
> > sent to file /var/log/daemon.log, whilst on newer Ubuntu systems
> > such as Ubuntu Natty (11.04), the output will be directed to file
> > /var/log/syslog."*
> >
> > In turn, I understand that "syslog" logging has been persistent-by-
> > default per years.
> >
> > It seems that with the switch to systemd as the init system, the
> > logging that originates from the init system became not-persistent by
> > default.
>
>     $ grep -c 'systemd\[1\]:' /var/log/syslog
>     39
>
> It's still there...
>
>
> --
> Jan Claeys
>
>

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<div dir="ltr"><br><div>Jan,</div><div><br></div><div>As noted in the linked bug \
report, there are some logs which are uniquely stored in the systemd journal, the \
journal is not persistent-by-default, and data loss is occurring as a default \
behavior.  </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Nov 17, \
2017 at 11:21 AM Jan Claeys &lt;<a href="mailto:lists@janc.be">lists@janc.be</a>&gt; \
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Mon, 2017-11-13 at 16:12 +0000, \
Mark Stosberg wrote:<br> &gt; *&quot;For a standard Ubuntu Maverick (10.10) system, \
the output will be<br> &gt; sent to file /var/log/daemon.log, whilst on newer Ubuntu \
systems<br> &gt; such as Ubuntu Natty (11.04), the output will be directed to \
file<br> &gt; /var/log/syslog.&quot;*<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; In turn, I understand that &quot;syslog&quot; logging has been \
persistent-by-<br> &gt; default per years.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; It seems that with the switch to systemd as the init system, the<br>
&gt; logging that originates from the init system became not-persistent by<br>
&gt; default.<br>
<br>
      $ grep -c &#39;systemd\[1\]:&#39; /var/log/syslog<br>
      39<br>
<br>
It&#39;s still there...<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
Jan Claeys<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>


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