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Subject:    [TUHS] Re: Tom Lyon's 3270 driver for UTS
From:       Tom Lyon via TUHS <tuhs () tuhs ! org>
Date:       2022-06-21 14:18:33
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Thanks, Adam.  I've always been proud of that driver.

Further credit - 'ned' was written by Dan Walsh (not the Redhat one), and,
like vi, it has 'ed' buried in it so all the familiar stuff just works.

It's possible to use UTS with ASCII terminals, but the hardware only
supports half-duplex, buffered, mode! I suspect it'd be possible to hack
the 270x emulator in Hercules to make it appear really full-duplex - then
one could add the real 'vi', etc.  But that would not be faithful emulation.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 7:56 PM Adam Thornton <athornton@gmail.com> wrote:

> While I know that there are people here who like good old ed...I've been
> playing with UTS under VM/370.  This version is from 1981 and I think it's
> v7.  But the important thing is that Tom Lyon wrote a 3270 terminal driver,
> and it comes with ned, which is a screen editor that feels a lot like
> XEDIT--which wasn't even in CMS at that point, although EE has been added
> to the VM370 Community Edition I'm using.  And the man pages are fullscreen
> as well.
>
> UTS is very, very usable because of that.  This really is a wonderful
> terminal driver.
>
> So, thank you, Tom!
>
> Adam



-- 
- Tom

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<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Thanks, Adam.   \
I&#39;ve always been proud of that driver.</div><div class="gmail_default" \
style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" \
style="font-size:small">Further credit - &#39;ned&#39; was written  by Dan Walsh (not \
the Redhat one), and, like vi, it has &#39;ed&#39; buried in it so all the familiar \
stuff just works.</div><div class="gmail_default" \
style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" \
style="font-size:small">It&#39;s possible to use UTS with ASCII terminals, but the \
hardware only supports half-duplex, buffered, mode! I suspect it&#39;d be possible to \
hack the 270x emulator in Hercules to make it appear really full-duplex - then one \
could add the real &#39;vi&#39;, etc.   But that would not be faithful \
emulation.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" \
class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 7:56 PM Adam Thornton &lt;<a \
href="mailto:athornton@gmail.com">athornton@gmail.com</a>&gt; \
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">While I know that \
there are people here who like good old ed...I&#39;ve been playing with UTS under \
VM/370.   This version is from 1981 and I think it&#39;s v7.   But the important \
thing is that Tom Lyon wrote a 3270 terminal driver, and it comes with ned, which is \
a screen editor that feels a lot like XEDIT--which wasn&#39;t even in CMS at that \
point, although EE has been added to the VM370 Community Edition I&#39;m using.   And \
the man pages are fullscreen as well.<br> <br>
UTS is very, very usable because of that.   This really is a wonderful terminal \
driver.<br> <br>
So, thank you, Tom!<br>
<br>
Adam</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" \
class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">- Tom</div></div>



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