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List:       tor-talk
Subject:    Re: [tor-talk] Why Crimekit Atrax will attract attention
From:       Noilson Caio <caiogore () gmail ! com>
Date:       2013-11-28 11:01:05
Message-ID: CACk28AXa=SOh=TrKm=-G_iSxNGOSZa9TJd7R3WQJ3BBGsBDdjw () mail ! gmail ! com
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indeed. thanks mr. Digledine.


On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Roger Dingledine <arma@mit.edu> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 08:00:37AM -0200, Noilson Caio wrote:
> > https://www.csis.dk/en/csis/blog/4103/
> >
> > I know that amplification attacks are not problems in the Tor network
> > (Enter one
> > bit comes out a bit). DDOS tools originated in the Tor network tend to
> clog
> > the output nodes. Correct ?
>
> Yes:
> https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq-abuse#DDoS
>
> That said, not all ddos attacks involve just simple flooding with
> traffic. Some of the attacks described on your url use very little
> traffic, e.g. instead relying on clogging up the cpu of the target
> machine by asking it to provide complex answers.
>
> The right answer to those attacks is "then don't design your services
> that way", but for many currently deployed services that's a long-term
> dream, not a short-term fix.
>
> *That* said, I would expect bots in this situation to use Tor for C&C,
> and do the distributed attacks directly. It's pretty silly to do a
> "distributed" attack from 5000 places but then funnel it all into Tor.
>
> Or said more clearly, if you have a botnet, use it -- you don't need Tor.
>
> --Roger
>
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