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Subject: RE: System Manager for 8.1
From: "Kennedy, Jeffrey" <jkennedy () qualcomm ! com>
Date: 2011-12-12 18:59:18
Message-ID: AA59DF792CDD504FA17BBD19F25BA3D917EF8AA0 () nasanexd02a ! na ! qualcomm ! com
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I like and value the "toasters" aspect of these boxes. A toaster is a nice
and easy to use appliance. Is netapp perhaps diverging from the
easy to use appliance model?
Perhaps because we're asking it to do so much more than just toast these days? \
De-dupe, compression, namespace, huge aggregates, etc... These are not toasters \
anymore, haven't been for a while imo.
Jeff Kennedy
Qualcomm, Incorporated
QCT Engineering Compute
858-651-6592
-----Original Message-----
From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf \
Of Knight, David
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 4:34 PM
To: Ehrhart, Rick
Cc: <toasters@teaparty.net>
Subject: Re: System Manager for 8.1
David
On Dec 8, 2011, at 5:55 PM, Ehrhart, Rick wrote:
> There is no way to add FilerView back into 8.1. The JVM was not included in ONTAP \
> 8.1.
> For 7-mode, System Manager 2.0 is the only tool available. In Cluster-mode, you \
> can do an http://<cluster management LIF> and get to an GUI implementation of the \
> CLI. This is the same as the advanced tab in System Manager.
> Regards,
>
> - Rick -
>
> From: steve klise [mailto:sklise@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 13:59
> To: andrey.borzenkov@ts.fujitsu.com; jeff.cleverley@avagotech.com; Parisi, Justin
> Cc: toasters@teaparty.net
> Subject: RE: System Manager for 8.1
>
> I thought all you linux guys were command line only? Now we REALLY know who the \
> filerview users are..
>
> JK, I am sure there will be a workaround..
>
> > From: andrey.borzenkov@ts.fujitsu.com
> > To: jeff.cleverley@avagotech.com; Justin.Parisi@netapp.com
> > Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 17:01:25 +0100
> > Subject: RE: System Manager for 8.1
> > CC: toasters@teaparty.net
> >
> > This is the valid point and I suggest you bring it up \
> > here:https://communities.netapp.com/community/products_and_solutions/storage_management_software/oncommand_system_manager, \
> > or directly in this thread:https://communities.netapp.com/message/64385#64385
> > Hmm ... wait ... System Manager 2.0 is browser based; when you start it locally \
> > it actually launches browser. Have you tried to connect to it externally? May be \
> > it is possible to tweak shortcut to do it? Again, you could ask in the above \
> > community, NetApp folks are really responsive (although right now there is a \
> > problem that E-Mail alerts do not work, you will have to check for replies \
> > manually).
> > I would be really interested if this (remote access) worked.
> >
> >
> > ---
> > With best regards
> >
> > Andrey Borzenkov
> > Senior system engineer
> > Service operations
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Cleverley [mailto:jeff.cleverley@avagotech.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 7:26 PM
> > To: Parisi, Justin
> > Cc: Borzenkov, Andrey; toasters@teaparty.net
> > Subject: Re: System Manager for 8.1
> >
> > Justin,
> >
> > I understand SM2.0 is out and have installed it on both my desktop and
> > my laptop. What I was hoping to avoid was having to install bits on
> > every single system we would want to be able to configure the filer
> > from. We have 5 people on our IT team. With the new method everyone
> > of them has to install the package on their RH desktop at work if they
> > want to do this, and also their laptop if they have one and access
> > from home.
> >
> > One of the other issues is a couple of them use Ubuntu or Mac boxes
> > from home. This package isn't supported for those. We'll end up
> > having to install it somewhere else and they will have to run rdesktop
> > or vnc to get to it. This is a lot of hassle for support compared to
> > just pulling up a web browser from virtually any OS and running FV.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Parisi, Justin <Justin.Parisi@netapp.com> wrote:
> > > Jeff,
> > >
> > > System Manager 2.0 is out and supported for 8.1. You can create volumes, \
> > > shares, etc with it.
> > > https://now.netapp.com/NOW/cgi-bin/software/?product=OnCommand+System+Manager&platform=Windows
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On \
> > > Behalf Of Jeff Cleverley
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 3:40 AM
> > > To: Borzenkov, Andrey
> > > Cc: toasters@teaparty.net
> > > Subject: Re: System Manager for 8.1
> > >
> > > Andrey,
> > >
> > > I may have to do this. It is just considerably more work to set up a \
> > > centralized server somewhere, possibly needing dedicated hardware, on a limited \
> > > set of supported OS platforms. The old FV would allow connections from most \
> > > web browsers with the proper java plug-in. Having to do all of this adds work \
> > > and complexity compared to FV. I would rather have FV as an option.
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 12:46 AM, Borzenkov, Andrey \
> > > <andrey.borzenkov@ts.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> > > > Well ... DFM is free of charge today, so why not go for a central management \
> > > > server with RBAC?
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > > With best regards
> > > >
> > > > Andrey Borzenkov
> > > > Senior system engineer
> > > > Service operations
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net
> > > > [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Cleverley
> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 11:24 AM
> > > > To: toasters@teaparty.net
> > > > Subject: System Manager for 8.1
> > > >
> > > > Greetings,
> > > >
> > > > I've got 8.1RC1 installed on a test filer. FilerView went away with
> > > > 8.1 7-mode and we now have to use System Manager. I have 2 questions
> > > > about this:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Has anyone found a hack to make FilerView work such as copying
> > > > over files or directories from an 8.x system?
> > > >
> > > > 2. If I only want to set up a centralized configuration that everyone
> > > > could see, would I have to set up a OnCommand Core package on a
> > > > server? Right now I have to install the rpm on my linux box and a
> > > > different setup on my PC. I have to tell it to go discover all of the
> > > > filers for each installation. This makes supporting this a pain for
> > > > our support team. Everyone has to install it on their PC and desktops
> > > > in order to be able to manage the 8.1 filers. It really seems a waste
> > > > to have to do so many installs, and then tell it to go find all the
> > > > needed filers. I hope there is a better way :-)
> > > >
> > > > I'm only looking for FilerView capabilities to create
> > > > aggregates/volumes/shares, etc. I'm not needing monitoring or other
> > > > advanced tools right now.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Jeff
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jeff Cleverley
> > > > Unix Systems Administrator
> > > > 4380 Ziegler Road
> > > > Fort Collins, Colorado 80525
> > > > 970-288-4611
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> > >
> > > --
> > > Jeff Cleverley
> > > Unix Systems Administrator
> > > 4380 Ziegler Road
> > > Fort Collins, Colorado 80525
> > > 970-288-4611
> > >
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Jeff Cleverley
> > Unix Systems Administrator
> > 4380 Ziegler Road
> > Fort Collins, Colorado 80525
> > 970-288-4611
> >
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David Knight
Dept. of Atmospheric and Environmental Sciences Tel: (518)-442-4204
University at Albany, ES-228 Fax: (518)-442-4494
Albany, NY 12222 Email: dknight@albany.edu
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