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Subject: Re: NetApp & Leopard
From: "Barry King" <barryking93 () gmail ! com>
Date: 2008-03-20 18:41:18
Message-ID: 164f0b3c0803201141t73337f7cr204fe95c3cd10197 () mail ! gmail ! com
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At least in my environment, this now partially works in 10.5.2. Based on my
experimentation: What works is doing a "Go -> Connect to Server" and
punching in cifs://netapp. What doesn't is trying to browse to it over the
network. I'm not sure why one works and the other doesn't.
Regards,
Barry King
On Fri, Feb 8, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Villabroza, Gerald <geraldv@stanford.edu>
wrote:
> Patrick,
>
> Tough to mandate dave or admitmac in a diverse higher education
> environment. 100's of macs show up after the Christmas holidays and
> they all expect to use university resources immediately.
>
> Carl,
>
> Our understanding from Apple is that the next Leopard update, 10.52,
> will address the CIFS access issue. It's in a testing phase now but not
> available to folks external to Apple.
>
> -=-=-
> gerald villabroza <geraldv at stanford.edu>
> technical lead, its storage, stanford university
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Patrick van Helden [mailto:pvh@databasement.eu]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 8:24 AM
> > To: Carl Howell; Villabroza, Gerald
> > Cc: toasters@mathworks.com
> > Subject: RE: NetApp & Leopard
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > Why don't you guys use a 3rd party client like "Dave" or "Admitmac"
> > from Thursby?
> >
> > Admitmac even has Windows DFS support
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Patrick van Helden
> > Databasement BV
> > pvh@databasement.eu
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: owner-toasters@mathworks.com namens Carl Howell
> > Verzonden: wo 1/30/2008 15:56
> > Aan: geraldv@stanford.edu
> > CC: toasters@mathworks.com
> > Onderwerp: RE: NetApp & Leopard
> >
> > Gerald,
> >
> > Thanks for the feedback, and yes, feel free to reference us.
> >
> > --Carl
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Villabroza, Gerald [mailto:geraldv@stanford.edu]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 8:49 AM
> > To: Carl Howell
> > Cc: toasters@mathworks.com
> > Subject: Re: NetApp & Leopard
> >
> > Carl,
> >
> > We're experiencing the same issue when accessing DOT 7.2.2 CIFS in Win
> > 2k3 AD with OS X 10.5.1.
> >
> > We've opened a case with Apple and here's what they came back with:
> >
> > #####
> > When a Leopard client opens a session, it sends three mechanisms in
> > this
> >
> > order, KRB5, some OID I don't what it is, and MS KRB5. The filer
> > returns an unsupported error.
> >
> > Apple thinks DOT is just bailing on the first unsupported mechanism
> and
> > not checking the whole list. Tiger only sent the MS KRB5 mechanism so
> > that is why it works.
> >
> > Apple is working on building a test of their kerberos library that
> puts
> > MS KRB5 as the first mechanism to validate the hypothesis.
> > #####
> >
> > Leopard can authenticate via K5 against MS WIN 2k3 systems fine in our
> > environment, just not against DOT.
> >
> > Luckily Apple and NetApp are both TSAnet members and can collaborate
> on
> > the support case.
> >
> > Do you mind if reference your experience at UWF with NetApp and Apple?
> > And if you don't, do you have a case # with NetApp?
> >
> > Its interesting to hear of other hi-ed's with this issue. Any others
> > out there? Like other issues in our space it helps to band together.
> >
> > -=-=-
> > gerald villabroza <geraldv at stanford.edu>
> > technical lead, its storage, stanford university
> >
> >
> > Carl Howell wrote:
> > > I've stumbled across a problem we're having accessing filer hosted
> > CIFS
> > > shares from Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.1. The Leopard boxes I've tried
> > this
> > > on are all bound to our Win2k3 Active Directory. If you log into
> > Leopard
> > > with your domain credentials and try to access a share on a
> > filer(this
> > > happens on all of our filers and all are at 7.x and above), you will
> > be
> > > prompted for your password. If you try to access the same CIFS share
> > > hosted on a Win2k3 box, you will get right in.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Has anyone else seen this?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --Carl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
--
Barry King
barryking93@gmail.com
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At least in my environment, this now partially works in 10.5.2. Based on my \
experimentation: What works is doing a "Go -> Connect to Server" \
and punching in cifs://netapp. What doesn't is trying to browse to it over \
the network. I'm not sure why one works and the other doesn't.<br> \
<br>Regards,<br><br>Barry King<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 8, 2008 at \
2:53 PM, Villabroza, Gerald <<a \
href="mailto:geraldv@stanford.edu">geraldv@stanford.edu</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt \
0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Patrick,<br>
<br>
Tough to mandate dave or admitmac in a diverse higher education<br>
environment. 100's of macs show up after the Christmas holidays and<br>
they all expect to use university resources immediately.<br>
<br>
Carl,<br>
<br>
Our understanding from Apple is that the next Leopard update, 10.52,<br>
will address the CIFS access issue. It's in a testing phase now but not<br>
available to folks external to Apple.<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
-=-=-<br>
gerald villabroza <geraldv at <a href="http://stanford.edu" \
target="_blank">stanford.edu</a>><br> technical lead, its storage, stanford \
university<br> <br>
</div><div class="Ih2E3d">> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Patrick van Helden [mailto:<a \
href="mailto:pvh@databasement.eu">pvh@databasement.eu</a>]<br> > Sent: Wednesday, \
January 30, 2008 8:24 AM<br> > To: Carl Howell; Villabroza, Gerald<br>
> Cc: <a href="mailto:toasters@mathworks.com">toasters@mathworks.com</a><br>
</div>> Subject: RE: NetApp & Leopard<br>
><br>
> Hi Guys,<br>
><br>
> Why don't you guys use a 3rd party client like "Dave" or \
"Admitmac"<br> > from Thursby?<br>
><br>
> Admitmac even has Windows DFS support<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
><br>
> Patrick van Helden<br>
> Databasement BV<br>
> <a href="mailto:pvh@databasement.eu">pvh@databasement.eu</a><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----<br>
> Van: <a href="mailto:owner-toasters@mathworks.com">owner-toasters@mathworks.com</a> \
namens Carl Howell<br> > Verzonden: wo 1/30/2008 15:56<br>
> Aan: <a href="mailto:geraldv@stanford.edu">geraldv@stanford.edu</a><br>
> CC: <a href="mailto:toasters@mathworks.com">toasters@mathworks.com</a><br>
> Onderwerp: RE: NetApp & Leopard<br>
<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">><br>
> Gerald,<br>
><br>
> Thanks for the feedback, and yes, feel free to reference us.<br>
><br>
> --Carl<br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Villabroza, Gerald [mailto:<a \
href="mailto:geraldv@stanford.edu">geraldv@stanford.edu</a>]<br> > Sent: \
Wednesday, January 30, 2008 8:49 AM<br> > To: Carl Howell<br>
> Cc: <a href="mailto:toasters@mathworks.com">toasters@mathworks.com</a><br>
> Subject: Re: NetApp & Leopard<br>
><br>
> Carl,<br>
><br>
> We're experiencing the same issue when accessing DOT 7.2.2 CIFS in Win<br>
> 2k3 AD with OS X 10.5.1.<br>
><br>
> We've opened a case with Apple and here's what they came back with:<br>
><br>
> #####<br>
> When a Leopard client opens a session, it sends three mechanisms in<br>
> this<br>
><br>
> order, KRB5, some OID I don't what it is, and MS KRB5. The filer<br>
> returns an unsupported error.<br>
><br>
> Apple thinks DOT is just bailing on the first unsupported mechanism<br>
and<br>
> not checking the whole list. Tiger only sent the MS KRB5 mechanism so<br>
> that is why it works.<br>
><br>
> Apple is working on building a test of their kerberos library that<br>
puts<br>
> MS KRB5 as the first mechanism to validate the hypothesis.<br>
> #####<br>
><br>
> Leopard can authenticate via K5 against MS WIN 2k3 systems fine in our<br>
> environment, just not against DOT.<br>
><br>
> Luckily Apple and NetApp are both TSAnet members and can collaborate<br>
on<br>
> the support case.<br>
><br>
> Do you mind if reference your experience at UWF with NetApp and Apple?<br>
> And if you don't, do you have a case # with NetApp?<br>
><br>
> Its interesting to hear of other hi-ed's with this issue. Any \
others<br> > out there? Like other issues in our space it helps to band \
together.<br> ><br>
> -=-=-<br>
> gerald villabroza <geraldv at <a href="http://stanford.edu" \
target="_blank">stanford.edu</a>><br> > technical lead, its storage, stanford \
university<br> ><br>
><br>
> Carl Howell wrote:<br>
> > I've stumbled across a problem we're having accessing filer \
hosted<br> > CIFS<br>
> > shares from Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.1. The Leopard boxes I've tried<br>
> this<br>
> > on are all bound to our Win2k3 Active Directory. If you log into<br>
> Leopard<br>
> > with your domain credentials and try to access a share on a<br>
> filer(this<br>
> > happens on all of our filers and all are at 7.x and above), you will<br>
> be<br>
> > prompted for your password. If you try to access the same CIFS share<br>
> > hosted on a Win2k3 box, you will get right in.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Has anyone else seen this?<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks,<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > --Carl<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Barry King<br><a \
href="mailto:barryking93@gmail.com">barryking93@gmail.com</a>
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