[prev in list] [next in list] [prev in thread] [next in thread] List: tar-bug Subject: Re: [Bug-tar] info ACl. From: Granjon Didier <didier.granjon () octant-fr ! com> Date: 2006-12-04 16:14:43 Message-ID: 1165248883.3700.22.camel () debgouj ! octant-fr ! com [Download RAW message or body] [Attachment #2 (multipart/related)] [Attachment #4 (multipart/alternative)] Hi, Thanks a lot for your answers, my interest is to save UNIX ACLs as well as the POSIX proposal. I'm going to use star. Best regards, Didier Le samedi 02 décembre 2006 15:03 +0100, Joerg Schilling a écrit : > Granjon Didier <didier.granjon@octant-fr.com> wrote: > > > HEllo, > > > > i whish to knwon if there are any plans to support Posix Acl in futur > > version of tar ? > > Let me try to clear things up: > > - POSIX ACLs are not a standard but a Standard proposal that > has been modelled after an old UNIX ACL implementation from > the early 1990s. > > The POSIX ACL proposal has been withdrawn around 1997. > > - The current ACL standard is in the NFSv4 spec (RFC-3530, > http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3530.txt) and is 100% bitwise > identical to NTFS ACLs. > > - "tar" supports the UNIX ACL implementation since ~ 1995 > and NFSv4 ACLs since 2004. > See: > http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/cmd/tar/ > This development for this source started ~ 1977 > > - "star" supports the UNIX ACLs as well as the POSIX proposal > since summer 2001. > See: ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/star/alpha/ > This development for this source started ~ 1982 > > - "GNU tar" does not support ACLs > This development for this source started ~ 1986 > > - Some other OS did start to support the withdrawn POSIX ACL > proposal since 2002 (after star supported it). > > - star will support standard (NFSv4) ACLs soon. > > What are you interested in? > > If you need the old ACLs for one of the supported platforms (Solaris, > FreeBSD, Linux, SCO and probably IRIX and True-64), I recommend to use star. > > > > Jörg > Octant Informatique - 193 rue Chassoliere - 38340 Voreppe - Tel:0476508238 - [Attachment #7 (text/html)] <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 TRANSITIONAL//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; CHARSET=UTF-8"> <META NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="GtkHTML/3.10.3"> </HEAD> <BODY> Hi, <BR> <BR> Thanks a lot for your answers, my interest is to save <FONT \ COLOR="#000000">UNIX ACLs as well as the POSIX proposal</FONT>. <BR> I'm \ going to use star. <BR> <BR> Best regards,<BR> Didier<BR> <BR> Le samedi 02 décembre 2006 à 15:03 +0100, Joerg Schilling a écrit : <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE> <FONT COLOR="#000000">Granjon Didier <<A \ HREF="mailto:didier.granjon@octant-fr.com">didier.granjon@octant-fr.com</A>> \ wrote:</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">> HEllo,</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">></FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">> i whish to knwon if there are any plans to support Posix \ Acl in futur</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">> version of tar ? </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">Let me try to clear things up:</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">- POSIX ACLs are not a standard but a Standard proposal \ that</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000"> has been modelled after an old UNIX ACL \ implementation from</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000"> the early 1990s.</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000"> The POSIX ACL proposal has been withdrawn around 1997.</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">- The current ACL standard is in the NFSv4 spec \ (RFC-3530,</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000"> <A \ HREF="http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3530.txt">http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3530.txt</A>) \ and is 100% bitwise</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000"> identical to NTFS ACLs.</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">- "tar" supports the UNIX ACL implementation since ~ \ 1995</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000"> and NFSv4 ACLs since 2004.</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000"> See: </FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000"> <A \ HREF="http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/cmd/tar/">http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/cmd/tar/</A></FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000"> This development for this source started ~ 1977</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">- "star" supports the UNIX ACLs as well as the POSIX \ proposal</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000"> since summer 2001.</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000"> See: <A \ HREF="ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/star/alpha/">ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/star/alpha/</A></FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000"> This development for this source started ~ 1982</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">- "GNU tar" does not support ACLs</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000"> This development for this source started ~ 1986</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">- Some other OS did start to support the withdrawn POSIX \ ACL</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000"> proposal since 2002 (after star supported \ it).</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">- star will support standard (NFSv4) ACLs soon.</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">What are you interested in?</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">If you need the old ACLs for one of the supported platforms \ (Solaris,</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">FreeBSD, Linux, SCO and probably IRIX and \ True-64), I recommend to use star.</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#000000">Jörg</FONT> </PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> <TABLE CELLSPACING="0" CELLPADDING="0" WIDTH="100%"> <TR> <TD> <A HREF="http://www.octant-fr.com/"><IMG \ SRC="cid:1165247215.3700.3.camel@debgouj.octant-fr.com" ALIGN="bottom" ALT="Octant \ Informatique - 193 rue Chassoliere - 38340 Voreppe - Tel:0476508238 -" \ BORDER="0"></A> </TD> </TR> </TABLE> </BODY> </HTML> ["kili.jpg" (kili.jpg)] JFIF H H Exif MM * C '!%"."%()+,+ /3/*2'*+* C *************************************************** " \ S !1A"Qaq2#B$Rb3C%S \ Tt&Ur47ds / !1AQa" \ 2qRS ? 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