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Subject:    [systemd-devel] Single Start-job remains listed after startup in state waiting ...
From:       "Hoyer, Marko (ADITG/SW2)" <mhoyer () de ! adit-jv ! com>
Date:       2016-10-28 14:55:26
Message-ID: 0DCF3DAE6CA1C148ACA42A82C24462586DB4F033 () HI2EXCH01 ! adit-jv ! com
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Hello,

we are observing a weird  behavior with systemd 211.

The issue:

-        After the startup is finished (multi-user.target is reached), one =
single job (typ: start, unit: service) remains in the job queue in state wa=
iting

o   There seems not to be any unmet dependency

o   There are no units in state failed

o   The job is listed when calling systemctl list-jobs

-        The issue is seen sporadically, not on every startup

-        The startup is a mixture of

o   Units coming up as part of the dependency tree ending up in multi-user.=
target

o   And units started by a component using systemctl start

=A7  The started units might have a tree of depending units as well

=A7  The sub trees of several of such unit are not necessarily disjoint

What I'm doing currently:

-        The issue is hard to reproduce.

-        That's why I'm trying to find out in which cases it is possible at=
 all that a job in state waiting can remain in the job list

-        With a hypothesis, I can instrument systemd and try to reproduce i=
t again

How you can help me:

-        Maybe someone already knows such an issue. Maybe it has already be=
en solved. Respective hints would be great.

-        Some of you have probably a better knowledge about how transaction=
s and the job scheduling are working in systemd. Maybe such a person could =
already point me to the cases that could happen to see finally such a resul=
t.

Thx in advance!

Best regards

Marko Hoyer
Advanced Driver Information Technology GmbH
Software Group II (ADITG/SW2)
Robert-Bosch-Str. 200
31139 Hildesheim
Germany
Tel. +49 5121 49 6948
Fax +49 5121 49 6999
mhoyer@de.adit-jv.com
ADIT is a joint venture company of Robert Bosch GmbH/Robert Bosch Car Multi=
media GmbH and DENSO Corporation
Sitz: Hildesheim, Registergericht: Amtsgericht Hildesheim HRB 3438
Gesch=E4ftsf=FChrung: Wilhelm Grabow, Ken Yaguchi

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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">we are observing a weird &nbsp;behavior with systemd \
211.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>The issue:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if \
!supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New \
Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><![endif]>After \
the startup is finished (multi-user.target is reached), one single job (typ: start, \
unit: service) remains in the job queue in state waiting<o:p></o:p></p> <p \
class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 \
level2 lfo1"> <![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier \
New&quot;"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New \
Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]>There seems not to be any \
unmet dependency<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoListParagraph" \
style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"> <![if \
!supportLists]><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><span \
style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New \
Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]>There are no units in state \
failed<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoListParagraph" \
style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"> <![if \
!supportLists]><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><span \
style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New \
Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]>The job is listed when \
calling systemctl list-jobs<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoListParagraph" \
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span \
style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New \
Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><![endif]>The \
issue is seen sporadically, not on every startup<o:p></o:p></p> <p \
class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if \
!supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New \
Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><![endif]>The \
startup is a mixture of<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoListParagraph" \
style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"> <![if \
!supportLists]><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><span \
style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New \
Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]>Units coming up as part of \
the dependency tree ending up in multi-user.target<o:p></o:p></p> <p \
class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 \
level2 lfo1"> <![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier \
New&quot;"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New \
Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><![endif]>And units started by a \
component using systemctl start<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoListParagraph" \
style="margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo1"> <![if \
!supportLists]><span style="font-family:Wingdings"><span \
style="mso-list:Ignore">§<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp; \
</span></span></span><![endif]>The started units might have a tree of depending units \
as well<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoListParagraph" \
style="margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo1"> <![if \
!supportLists]><span style="font-family:Wingdings"><span \
style="mso-list:Ignore">§<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp; \
</span></span></span><![endif]>The sub trees of several of such unit are not \
necessarily disjoint<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>What I&#8217;m doing currently:<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if \
!supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New \
Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><![endif]>The \
issue is hard to reproduce.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoListParagraph" \
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span \
style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New \
Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
</span></span><![endif]>That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m trying to find out in which cases \
it is possible at all that a job in state waiting can remain in the job \
list<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoListParagraph" \
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span \
style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New \
Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><![endif]>With \
a hypothesis, I can instrument systemd and try to reproduce it again<o:p></o:p></p> \
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><b>How you can help \
me:<o:p></o:p></b></p> <p class="MsoListParagraph" \
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span \
style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New \
Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><![endif]>Maybe \
someone already knows such an issue. Maybe it has already been solved. Respective \
hints would be great.<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoListParagraph" \
style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span \
style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt &quot;Times New \
Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span><![endif]>Some \
of you have probably a better knowledge about how transactions and the job scheduling \
are working in systemd. Maybe such a person could already point me to the cases that \
could happen to see finally such a result.<o:p></o:p></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">Thx in \
advance!<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Best \
regards</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New \
Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New \
Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" \
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;text-autospace:none"><b><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Marko \
Hoyer</span></b><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New \
Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" \
style="margin-bottom:5.0pt;text-autospace:none"><b><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue">A</span></b><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">dvanced \
<b><span style="color:blue">D</span></b>river <b><span \
style="color:blue">I</span></b>nformation <b><span \
style="color:blue">T</span></b>echnology GmbH</span><span \
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br> \
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Software \
Group II (ADITG/SW2)</span><span \
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> <br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Robert-Bosch-Str. \
200</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
 </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">31139 \
Hildesheim</span><span \
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br> \
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Germany</span><span \
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
 <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;text-autospace:none"><span \
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Tel. \
&#43;49 5121 49 6948<br> Fax &#43;49 5121 49 6999<br>
mhoyer@de.adit-jv.com</span><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New \
Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span \
style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">ADIT is \
a joint venture company of Robert Bosch GmbH/Robert Bosch Car Multimedia GmbH and \
                DENSO Corporation<br>
Sitz: Hildesheim, Registergericht: Amtsgericht Hildesheim HRB 3438&nbsp; <br>
Geschäftsführung: Wilhelm Grabow, Ken Yaguchi</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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