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From: Chris Puttick <chris () centralmanclc ! com>
Date: 2001-11-21 9:51:05
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Maybe SUSE should be doing something similar in NHS/Microsoft case...

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Dingledine
To: seul-edu@seul.org
Sent: 11/21/01 1:00 AM
Subject: [seul-edu] (FWD) Red Hat Proposes Alternative to Microsoft
settlement

It's really a shame that Microsoft is going to get away with further
extending its monopoly as part of its "punishment".

Ah well,
--Roger

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Date:         Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:07:00 -0800
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From: Doug Masson <dmasson@WELL.COM>
Subject:      Red Hat Proposes Alternative to Microsoft settlement

I thought this was a nice piece of public relations from Red Hat:

Subject: Red Hat proposes Alternative to Microsoft Settlement

Red Hat Proposes to Enhance Microsoft Settlement Offer By Providing Open
Source Software to All U.S. School Districts RESEARCH TRIANGLE PARK,
N.C.,
Nov 20, 2001 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Open Source leader proposes to provide
software to every school district in the United States if Microsoft
provides computing hardware for the 14,000 poorest school districts

Red Hat, Inc. (Nasdaq:RHAT) today proposed an alternative to the
settlement announced today of the class-action lawsuit against
Microsoft.
Red Hat offered to provide open-source software to every school district
in the United States free of charge, encouraging Microsoft to redirect
the
money it would have spent on software into purchasing more hardware for
the 14,000 poorest school districts. Under the Red Hat proposal, by
removing Microsoft's higher-priced software from the settlement
equation,
Microsoft could provide the school districts with many more
computers--greatly extending the benefits Microsoft seeks to provide
school districts with their proposed settlement.

Microsoft had proposed that, in settlement of class-action claims of
price-gouging, the company donate computer hardware, software and
support
to 14,000 poor school districts throughout the United States. Under the
proposed settlement, a substantial part of the value provided to schools
would be in the form of Microsoft software.

    The Red Hat's alternative proposal includes the following:
    --  Microsoft redirects the value of their proposed software
        donation to the purchase of additional hardware for the school
        districts. This would increase the number of computers
        available under the original proposal from 200,000 to more
        than one million, and would increase the number of systems per
        school from approximately 14 to at least 70.
    --  Red Hat, Inc. will provide free of charge the open-source Red
        Hat Linux operating system, office applications and associated
        capabilities to any school system in the United States.
    --  Red Hat will provide online support for the software through
        the Red Hat Network.
    --  Unlike the Microsoft proposal, which has a five-year time
        limit at which point schools would have to pay Microsoft to
        renew their licenses and upgrade the software, the Red Hat
        proposal has no time limit. Red Hat will provide software
        upgrades through the Red Hat Network online distribution
        channel.
    A Win-Win Approach
The Red Hat proposal achieves two important goals:
improving the quality and accessibility of computing education in the
nation's less-privileged schools, and preventing the extension of
Microsoft's monopoly to the most-vulnerable users.

"While we applaud Microsoft for raising the idea of helping poorer
schools
as part of the penalty phase of their conviction for monopolistic
practices, we do not think that the remedy should be a mechanism by
which
Microsoft can further extend its monopoly," said Matthew Szulik, CEO of
Red Hat. "Through this proposal all of the states and all of the schools
can win, and Microsoft will achieve even greater success for its stated
goal of helping schools. By providing schools with a software choice,
Red
Hat will enable Microsoft to provide many more computers to these
schools.
At the same time, the schools can accept this offer secure in the
knowledge that they have not rewarded a monopolist by extending the
monopoly. It's now up to Microsoft to demonstrate that they are truly
serious about helping our schools."

General information about Red Hat's support for education is available
at
www.redhat.com/opensourcenow/.

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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Maybe SUSE should be doing something similar in NHS/Microsoft \
case...</FONT> </P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Roger Dingledine</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: seul-edu@seul.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: 11/21/01 1:00 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: [seul-edu] (FWD) Red Hat Proposes Alternative to Microsoft \
settlement</FONT> </P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>It's really a shame that Microsoft is going to get away with \
further</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>extending its monopoly as part of its \
&quot;punishment&quot;.</FONT> </P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Ah well,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>--Roger</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>----- Forwarded message from &quot;R. A. Hettinga&quot; \
&lt;rah@shipwright.com&gt; -----</FONT> </P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Date:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Tue, 20 Nov \
2001 16:07:00 -0800</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sender: Law &amp; Policy of Computer \
Communications</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&lt;CYBERIA-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Doug Masson &lt;dmasson@WELL.COM&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Red Hat Proposes Alternative \
to Microsoft settlement</FONT> </P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>I thought this was a nice piece of public relations from Red \
Hat:</FONT> </P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: Red Hat proposes Alternative to Microsoft Settlement</FONT>
</P>

Red Hat Proposes to Enhance Microsoft Settlement Offer By Providing \
Open Source Software to All U.S. School Districts RESEARCH \
TRIANGLE PARK, N.C.,
 Nov 20, 2001 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Open Source leader proposes to \
provide software to every school district in the United \
States if Microsoft provides computing hardware for the \
14,000 poorest school districts

Red Hat, Inc. (Nasdaq:RHAT) today proposed an alternative to \
the settlement announced today of the class-action lawsuit \
against Microsoft.
 Red Hat offered to provide open-source software to every school \
district in the United States free of charge, encouraging \
Microsoft to redirect the
 money it would have spent on software into purchasing more hardware \
for the 14,000 poorest school districts. Under the Red Hat \
proposal, by removing Microsoft's higher-priced software from \
the settlement equation,
 Microsoft could provide the school districts with many more
 computers--greatly extending the benefits Microsoft seeks to \
provide school districts with their proposed \
settlement.

Microsoft had proposed that, in settlement of class-action claims \
of price-gouging, the company donate computer hardware, \
software and support
 to 14,000 poor school districts throughout the United States. Under \
the proposed settlement, a substantial part of the value \
provided to schools would be in the form of Microsoft \
software.

&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Red Hat's alternative proposal includes the \
following: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; --&nbsp; Microsoft redirects \
the value of their proposed software &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; donation to the purchase of \
additional hardware for the school &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; districts. This would increase the \
number of computers &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; available under the original \
proposal from 200,000 to more &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; than one million, and would \
increase the number of systems per &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; school from approximately 14 to at \
least 70. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; --&nbsp; Red Hat, Inc. will \
provide free of charge the open-source Red &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Hat Linux operating system, office \
applications and associated &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; capabilities to any school system \
in the United States. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; --&nbsp; Red Hat \
will provide online support for the software through &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; the Red Hat Network. \
 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; --&nbsp; Unlike the Microsoft proposal, which has \
a five-year time &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \
limit at which point schools would have to pay Microsoft to &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; renew their licenses and upgrade \
the software, the Red Hat &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; proposal has no time limit. Red Hat \
will provide software &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; upgrades through the Red Hat \
Network online distribution &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; channel. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A Win-Win Approach The Red Hat \
proposal achieves two important goals: improving the quality \
and accessibility of computing education in the nation's \
less-privileged schools, and preventing the extension of Microsoft's monopoly to the most-vulnerable users.

&quot;While we applaud Microsoft for raising the idea of helping \
poorer schools
 as part of the penalty phase of their conviction for \
monopolistic practices, we do not think that the remedy \
should be a mechanism by which
 Microsoft can further extend its monopoly,&quot; said Matthew \
Szulik, CEO of Red Hat. &quot;Through this proposal all of \
the states and all of the schools can win, and Microsoft will \
achieve even greater success for its stated goal of helping \
schools. By providing schools with a software choice, Red Hat will enable Microsoft to provide many more \
computers to these schools.
 At the same time, the schools can accept this offer secure in \
the knowledge that they have not rewarded a monopolist by \
extending the monopoly. It's now up to Microsoft to \
demonstrate that they are truly serious about helping our \
schools.&quot;

<P><FONT SIZE=2>General information about Red Hat's support for education is \
available</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>at</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>www.redhat.com/opensourcenow/.</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

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