From suse-kde  Thu Apr 15 14:17:58 2010
From: Michal Hlavac <hlavki () hlavki ! eu>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 14:17:58 +0000
To: suse-kde
Subject: Re: [opensuse-kde] What is KDE 4.4 missing?
Message-Id: <201004151617.59163.hlavki () hlavki ! eu>
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Hi, 

What about socks support? I can't believe it's not planned even for 4.5.
http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.5_Feature_Plan#kdenetwork

m.

On St 7. Apríl 2010 18:53:32 Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2010/04/07 11:51 (GMT+0300) Dotan Cohen composed:
> > Felix Miata wrote:
> >> This is now empty on the two mirrors I checked. Is this a temporary
> >> condition? If so, is there an ETA on population there? KDE4.4.x is still
> >> not a suitable replacement for KDE3 here.
> > 
> > I file bugs and feature requests for KDE.
> 
> I know. I have you set to "watch" on bugs.kde.org. :-)
> 
> I file bugs for openSUSE, Mandriva, Fedora & Kubuntu, feature requests for
> openSUSE and Mandriva, and on rare occasions a bug or feature request for
> KDE.
> 
> > While I agree that KDE
> > 3.5.10 does have some advantages over KDE 4, I am interested in
> > knowing which features are missing for you in KDE 4.4. My goal is only
> > to improve KDE 4 to fit your needs, not to try to convince you, so if
> > you just let me know what is missing, not working right, or not
> > intuitive in KDE 4 I will help get it fixed.
> 
> I laud your activity. Mine doesn't permit that much time to be devoted to
> KDE4 per se. My routine work is done in OS/2 (extensive email, DOS
> database, text & image editing, web searches) and openSUSE 11.0/KDE3 (file
> & web hosting, web site testing, web data lookups, IRC). My ad hoc testing
> of devel versions of Linux operating systems has gotten more complex in
> the past couple of years due to some major paradigm changes overpowering
> the more subtle evolution that preceded it: smbfs->cifs, ide->libata,
> KDE3->KDE4, xrandr/autodetect, DPI forcing to 96 or not, kms, sysvinit
> replacement, & Grub2. Thus it's hard to get specific about KDE4. Things
> that come to mind I think have all been covered here and/or on *@kde.org
> lists, but here's a non-exhaustive list of things that come to mind (which
> mary or may not be working/available in KDE3):
> 
> 1-repeatable sizing of panel height (impossible via KDE4 drag; easy in KDE3
> via KControl)
> 
> 2-manual hiding of panel
> 
> 3-default panel height and icon size are not auto adjusted larger for
> higher DPIs
> 
> 4-mc missing from Konsole menu
> 
> 5-mc doesn't automatically restart when left open in Konsole on logging out
> 
> 6-file pickers stink compared to
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104501#c2
> 
> 7-various windows do not reopen to size at last closing
> 
> 8-tree view for "systemsettings" is neither default nor a traditional tree
> view
> 
> 9-YaST -> _system_ settings; personal settings -> personal desktop config
> settings
> 
> 10-all of panel should be configurable via personal desktop config settings
> (similar to KDE3)
> 
> 11-plasma - I can't logically associate my understanding of the word's
> natural meaning with what it applies to in KDE4
> (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/plasma 1, 2, 5)
> 
> 12-akonadi - overhead that that cannot be turned off even though I use
> nothing that depends on it (Mozillas for web; mc for file management &
> searching; OS/2 for contacts)
> 
> 13-distinction between general and advanced classification of objects in
> systemsettings is difficult to ascertain
> 
> 14-keyboard/mouse seems more like "look & feel" (personal) than "computer
> administration" (YaST)
> 
> 15-why are "input actions" and "keyboard & mouse" two separate things?
> Seems like they should either be 3 things or 1 thing.
> 
> Enough for now. :-p
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