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Subject: Re: [rescue] More looking for... Ultra 2 and Other Equipment
From: Michael Dombrowski via rescue <rescue () sunhelp ! org>
Date: 2023-11-24 21:38:05
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To follow up on this...I was able to get the Ultra 2 less sick, using a memory \
configuration that was explicitly not supported in the manual. I was able to install \
Solaris 7 and upgrade the firmware to the latest version. Since then, I've added a \
lot more ram (1280mb now) and it has been running fine. I don't know if the firmware \
did anything, or it was just enough cycles of removing and reinstall pieces that did \
it. I was also able to put a new battery in the NVRAM. So I'm up and running with a \
single 400mhz/2mb, creator3D, gigabit, 73gb disk, and the 1280mb ram. It seems to \
just work nowadays.
I also took a chance on dual 400mhz/4mb CPUs. And the simple answer is that they \
don't fit. Not what I had expected - the 4mb CPUs have a heatsink on the back that \
interferes with the shrouding on the Ultra 2. Anyone want to trade dual 400mhz/4mb \
cache CPUs for a single 400mhz/2mb?
Still looking for a horizontal Elite3d or Creator3D Series 3 as well...
mike
On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 08:45:20 PM CST, Ethan Hawke <ehawk@ember.systems> \
wrote:
400Mhz/2mb are the fastest listed supported, no idea if the 450Mhz CPUs will POST or \
not. What revision motherboard is in your Ultra 2?
Do you have a capture of the actual POST error messages?
Ethan
On 07/11/2023 1:40 pm, Michael Dombrowski wrote:
I should have mentioned that I reseated the ram and swapped known good memory from \
my Ultra 1 without success. Pulled the Creator card. Reseated the CPU as well. I may \
buy another CPU as they are relatively cheap and I'd like to go dual as well... What \
is the top spec CPU for this machine? 400mhz/2mb is listed in the manual (and is what \
I have), but I seem to recall folks using 450mhz and/or more cache.
mike
On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 08:29:38 PM CST, Ethan Hawke via rescue \
<rescue@sunhelp.org> wrote:
Ultra 2's are generally very reliable, I recommend reseating the CPUs and memory if \
you haven't already.
Cheers,
Ethan
On 07/11/2023 1:12 pm, Michael Dombrowski via rescue wrote:
I finally had a chance to dig into the Ultra 2... and this is my first miss \
complete miss in getting back into retro computers. "Red State Exceptions" and other \
memory errors lead me to believe that this machine is irrecoverably sick. So I'm \
looking for another Ultra 2 machine. The rest of my list: SS1000(E)
TGX+ Horizontal Creator Series 3 or Elite3d M3/M6
Tadpole 3200/Cyclequad Sparcplug Dec 5000 Indy/Indigo2 Alpha, RS6k HP 712/100mhz \
(complete system or logic board alone) Other weird stuff
Still in St Louis
thanks mike
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up on this...</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I was able to get the Ultra 2 \
less sick, using a memory configuration that was explicitly not supported in the \
manual. I was able to install Solaris 7 and upgrade the firmware to the latest \
version. Since then, I've added a lot more ram (1280mb now) and it has been running \
fine. I don't know if the firmware did anything, or it was just enough cycles of \
removing and reinstall pieces that did it. I was also able to put a new battery in \
the NVRAM. So I'm up and running with a single 400mhz/2mb, creator3D, gigabit, 73gb \
disk, and the 1280mb ram. It seems to just work nowadays.<br></div><div dir="ltr" \
data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I also took a chance \
on dual 400mhz/4mb CPUs. And the simple answer is that they don't fit. Not what I had \
expected - the 4mb CPUs have a heatsink on the back that interferes with the \
shrouding on the Ultra 2.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div \
dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Anyone want to trade dual 400mhz/4mb cache CPUs for a \
single 400mhz/2mb? <br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div \
dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Still looking for a horizontal Elite3d or Creator3D \
Series 3 as well...</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" \
data-setdir="false">mike<br></div><div><br></div>
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On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 08:45:20 PM CST, Ethan Hawke \
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<p>400Mhz/2mb are the fastest listed supported, no idea if the
450Mhz CPUs will POST or not. What revision motherboard is in your
Ultra 2?<br clear="none">
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<p>Do you have a capture of the actual POST error messages?</p>
<p>Ethan<br clear="none">
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class="ydp20d57cyiv5867485987moz-cite-prefix">On 07/11/2023 1:40 pm, Michael \
Dombrowski wrote:<br clear="none"> </div>
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Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;" \
class="ydp20d57cyiv5867485987ydp3c33c9fayahoo-style-wrap"> <div dir="ltr">I should \
have mentioned that</div> <div dir="ltr">I reseated the ram and
swapped known good memory from my Ultra 1 without success.
Pulled the Creator card. Reseated the CPU as well. I may buy
another CPU as they are relatively cheap and I'd like to go
dual as well... What is the top spec CPU for this machine?
400mhz/2mb is listed in the manual (and is what I have), but I
seem to recall folks using 450mhz and/or more cache.<br clear="none">
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<div dir="ltr">mike<br clear="none">
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<div style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, \
sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;"> <div> On Monday, November 6, 2023 at \
08:29:38 PM CST, Ethan Hawke via rescue <a shape="rect" \
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<p>Ultra 2's are generally very reliable, I recommend
reseating the CPUs and memory if you haven't already.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br clear="none">
Ethan<br clear="none">
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<div \
class="ydp20d57cyiv5867485987ydpd09c04eayiv0764707157moz-cite-prefix">On 07/11/2023 \
1:12 pm, Michael Dombrowski via rescue wrote:<br clear="none">
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<div dir="ltr">I finally had a chance to dig into the Ultra 2... and this is my \
first miss complete miss in getting back into retro computers. "Red
State Exceptions" and other memory errors lead me
to believe that this machine is irrecoverably
sick. So I'm looking for another Ultra 2 machine.</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br clear="none">
</div>
<div dir="ltr">The rest of my list:</div>
<div dir="ltr">SS1000(E)<br clear="none">
</div>
<div dir="ltr">TGX+</div>
<div dir="ltr">Horizontal Creator Series 3 or
Elite3d M3/M6<br clear="none">
</div>
<div dir="ltr">Tadpole 3200/Cyclequad</div>
<div dir="ltr">Sparcplug</div>
<div dir="ltr">Dec 5000</div>
<div dir="ltr">Indy/Indigo2</div>
<div dir="ltr">Alpha, RS6k</div>
<div dir="ltr">HP 712/100mhz (complete system or
logic board alone)</div>
<div dir="ltr">Other weird stuff<br clear="none">
</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br clear="none">
</div>
<div dir="ltr">Still in St Louis<br clear="none">
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<div dir="ltr">thanks</div>
<div dir="ltr">mike</div>
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