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Subject:    =?Windows-1252?Q?RE:_subversion_won=92t_add_new_files?=
From:       John Maher <JohnM () rotair ! com>
Date:       2014-09-24 16:59:23
Message-ID: 910250F21FAA2A4E8F72DD21EA7807660942AC0B () VMJudi ! corp ! rotair ! com
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Thanks for the links Ryan, but I've read through chapter 4.  Can't say I understand \
through chapter 4, but reading it again will unlikely produce better results.  Maybe \
in a couple of years.

And I must mention that once you understand something you have a bias toward it, i.e. \
the understanding.  To say it's clear does nothing to describe the state of it to \
someone without your knowledge.  Plus it is not helpful to anyone who does not \
understand something to say "works for me."  That is borderline combative and creates \
a rift threatening further understanding.  I apologize if I took your comment wrong \
but it's important to me to help you to improve your comments.  You can ignore me and \
that’s fine, I don't mind.  But if I see an unuseful comment from someone who may \
wish to make only useful comments and I don't help them then its shame on me.

And I would like to help with the book.  I don't believe I am at a level to do that \
properly yet.  I have a long way to go.

JM

-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Schmidt [mailto:subversion-2014@ryandesign.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 12:41 PM
To: John Maher
Cc: Subversion Users
Subject: Re: subversion won’t add new files


On Sep 24, 2014, at 11:14 AM, John Maher wrote:

> Thanks for your reply.  Not sure why you wish to post opinions or think it's clear \
> when the book says "Send changes from your working copy to the repository" when I \
> make a change in my working copy and it is ignored.  Don't take it personal if a \
> user does not understand something.  And just because you understand something does \
> not make it clear.  It just makes it clear to you. 
> But none the less, thank you for explaining the weird behavior, it was very \
> helpful.

Tone is not always easy to infer in email, but I'm not taking anything personally. I \
am just a Subversion user, just like you; this list is for Subversion users to help \
other Subversion users use and understand the software. In my case, I have about 10 \
years of experience using Subversion, which is why I mentioned my opinions about the \
tool and its documentation. I understand you're frustrated that the tool isn't \
working the way you expected, which is why I wanted to give you the benefit of my \
experience to let you know that Subversion is in fact a quality tool, but like other \
complex software, it is important to understand how it works, which is what the \
Subversion Book and other documentation (and this list) are there to help you with.


The passage you quoted, "Send changes from your working copy to the repository", is \
from Chapter 9 of the book:

http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.7/svn.ref.svn.c.commit.html

This is a very late section of the book, supposed to give you a quick reminder of \
specific commands, after you've already learned how to use the tool; it's not an \
appendix though it might as well be. To learn how to use the tool, read the earlier \
chapters of the book, such as Chapter 1: Fundamental Concepts and Chapter 2: Basic \
Usage.

http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.7/svn.basic.html

http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.7/svn.tour.html

Hopefully this will give you a good understanding of how to use Subversion \
effectively and you'll come to enjoy using it as much as I do.


You can also send feedback about the book to its authors; their contact information \
is on the book's main page:

http://svnbook.red-bean.com


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