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List:       subversion-dev
Subject:    Re: soak time (was: Ann: Subversion 0.35.1 released)
From:       solo turn <soloturn99 () yahoo ! com>
Date:       2003-12-22 20:56:45
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i like gregs proposition, as human errors are possible and do not matter. for deployment, we
always keep a week soak time, which means if releasing takes a week soak time and we do another
week, we are at two weeks now ...

--- kfogel@collab.net wrote:
> I don't think the "soak time" system itself is broken, we just had
> some human error this time.  No system is going to eliminate that
> completely, but the soak time is still valuable...
> 
> -K
> 
> Greg Stein <gstein@lyra.org> writes:
> > We settled on a week of "soak time" simply to avoid patch releases like
> > this right after releasing. If we *still* do little patches like this,
> > then wtf do we have a soak time for?
> > 
> > I'd like to suggest that we just dispense with the soak time. It is
> > certainly not preventing patch releases. Yes, I know that other patches
> > got into 0.35 that may not have been there, but we released a 0.35.1
> > anyways. They could have gone there.
> > 
> > And yah, I know that the release is going to be way stable now anyways, so
> > risks are low and soak isn't needed. Mostly, I'm talking about when we
> > start making regular releases again next year. Screw the soak time and the
> > delay it introduces. Just stick with bi-weekly releases. If you miss a
> > release, then wait for the next. It isn't very far off. If the problem is
> > critical, then sure: we make a patch. But the soak time that we're
> > providing is only giving us time to integrate non-critical, and is not
> > saving us from patch releases for the critical items. Thus, I consider the
> > experience so far to be a failure.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > -g
> > 
> > On Sat, Dec 20, 2003 at 05:20:30PM +0100, Jostein Chr. Andersen wrote:
> > > The latest interim bugfix release of Subversion is ready at
> > > 
> > >    http://svn.collab.net/tarballs/subversion-0.35.1.tar.gz
> > > 
> > > The MD5 checksum is c4473988acdd82e8b0e176eefc7d0fb7.
> > > 
> > > CHANGES:
> > > -----------------------------------------------------------
> > > Version 0.35.1 (branching 19 December 2003, from /tags/0.35.0)
> > > http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/tags/0.35.1
> > > 
> > >                               NOTICES:
> > > 
> > >        This release is to correct for the problems in the 0.35.0
> > >        release and affects Windows users only:
> > > 
> > >        * fix: file handle leak (r8048)
> > >        * fix: UTF-8 path problem (issue #1660)
> > > -----------------------------------------------------------
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Please direct questions/comments to the users@subversion.tigris.org
> > > and/or dev@subversion.tigris.org mailing lists.
> > > 
> > > Jostein
> > > 
> > > 
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> > -- 
> > Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/
> > 
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