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Subject:    Re: [squid-users] Squid.conf in a DB Mysql
From:       <ngtech1ltd () gmail ! com>
Date:       2022-07-10 1:25:23
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Hey Marcelo,
 
It's possible to use a SQL DB (Mysql,MSSQL,Oracle,PostgreSQL…) and a programming \
language to put the rules outside of squid.conf. It could be a combination of \
external acl helpers with DB backend and a configuration (squid.conf) generator based \
on a DB. However, you first need to do some homework and make sure it will be good \
enough for your use case. As Alex mentioned there are fast and slow ACLs but for your \
use case depends on your service size it's possible  you can use simple text files \
and simple external acl helpers.  
To be able to answer your question in detail you need to prepare a technical spec \
that will try summarize your use case. I am working on a series of Zoom meetings that \
I hope will start next week on Thursday evening IST. I need to prepare the slides and \
environment for this meeting and it will be the first of: Squid 0 to hero So the \
first meetings will not touch your use case specifically but I will discuss with the \
participants their aera so we can talk and give demos for specific use cases \
somewhere in these meetings.  
I will try to post about these meetings in the coming week with hope that you will be \
able to participate.  
I believe that for your use case it's better that you will not use PHP to write your \
helper despite to that fact that the latest versions of PHP which I have tested are \
stable and won't stop working even after a very very long run time (what I was \
informed that should be tested in these PHP versions).  
In my production environment I am using many RUBY helpers that eventually worth their \
memory consumption. (Kinkie it took me a while to grasp that the memory usage \
differences between languages doesn't worth considering)  
I am working on couple examples but I am pretty sure it's not your use case.
 
All The Bests,
Eliezer
 
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From: squid-users <squid-users-bounces@lists.squid-cache.org> On Behalf Of Marcelo
Sent: Sunday, 10 July 2022 0:08
To: squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org
Subject: [squid-users] Squid.conf in a DB Mysql
 
Hello,
 
Is it possible to use MySQL and PHP programming to put squid rules outside of \
squid.conf? I heard about it using external acl, but can find any documentation or \
good example of it.  
I would like to "transfer" parameters as ACLs, HTTP_ACCESS, HTTP_PORT, and \
TCP_OUTGOING_ADDRESS from squid.conf to a DB+PHP solution.  
 
Marcelo
 


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class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Hey \
Marcelo,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>It's \
possible to use a SQL DB (<span class=SpellE>Mysql,MSSQL,Oracle,PostgreSQL</span>…) \
and a programming language to put the rules outside of <span \
class=SpellE>squid.conf</span>.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
lang=EN-US style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>It \
could be a combination of external <span class=SpellE>acl</span> helpers with DB \
backend and a configuration (<span class=SpellE>squid.conf</span>) generator based on \
a DB.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>However, \
you first need to do some homework and make sure it will be good enough for your use \
case.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>As \
Alex mentioned there are fast and slow ACLs but for your use case depends on your \
service size it's possible <br>you can use simple text files and simple external \
<span class=SpellE>acl</span> helpers.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
lang=EN-US style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>To \
be able to answer your question in detail you need to prepare a technical spec that \
will try summarize your use case.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
lang=EN-US style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>I \
am working on a series of Zoom meetings that I hope will start next week on Thursday \
evening IST.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>I \
need to prepare the slides and environment for this meeting and it will be the first \
of: Squid 0 to hero<br><span class=GramE>So</span> the first meetings will not touch \
your use case specifically but I will discuss with the participants their aera \
so<br>we can talk and give demos for specific use cases somewhere in these \
meetings.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>I \
will try to post about these meetings in the coming week with hope that you will be \
able to participate.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>I \
believe that for your use case it's better that you will not use PHP to write your \
helper despite to that fact that<br>the latest versions of PHP which I have tested \
are stable and won't stop working even after a very <span class=SpellE>very</span> \
long run time<br>(<span class=GramE>what</span> I was informed that should be tested \
in these PHP versions).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p \
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style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>In \
my production environment I am using many RUBY helpers that eventually worth their \
memory consumption.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>(<span \
class=GramE>Kinkie</span> it took me a while to grasp that the memory usage \
differences between languages doesn't worth considering)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>I \
am working on couple examples but I am pretty sure it's not your use \
case.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>All \
The Bests,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Eliezer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span lang=en-IL \
style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:#0C00'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p \
class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New \
Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'>----<o:p></o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New \
Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'>Eliezer \
Croitoru<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New \
Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'>NgTech, \
Tech Support<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New \
Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'>Mobile: \
+972-5-28704261<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New \
Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'>Email: \
<a href="mailto:ngtech1ltd@gmail.com"><span \
style='color:blue'>ngtech1ltd@gmail.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New \
Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'>Web: \
<a href="https://ngtech.co.il/"><span \
style='color:blue'>https://ngtech.co.il/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New \
Roman";mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'>My-Tube: \
<a href="https://tube.ngtech.co.il/"><span \
style='color:blue'>https://tube.ngtech.co.il/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p \
class=MsoNormal><span lang=en-IL \
style='mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;mso-ansi-language:#0C00'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div \
style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p \
class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New \
Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:#2000'>From:</span></b><span \
lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New \
Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:#2000'> squid-users \
&lt;squid-users-bounces@lists.squid-cache.org&gt; <b>On Behalf Of \
</b>Marcelo<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 10 July 2022 0:08<br><b>To:</b> \
squid-users@lists.squid-cache.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [squid-users] Squid.conf in a DB \
Mysql<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Is it possible to \
use MySQL and PHP programming to put squid rules outside of squid.conf?<br>I heard \
about it using external acl, but can find any documentation or good example of \
it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>I would like to "transfer" parameters as \
ACLs, HTTP_ACCESS, HTTP_PORT, and TCP_OUTGOING_ADDRESS from squid.conf to a DB+PHP \
solution.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
lang=EN-US style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span lang=PT-BR \
style='mso-ansi-language:PT-BR;mso-fareast-language:PT-BR'>Marcelo<o:p></o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span lang=PT-BR \
style='mso-ansi-language:PT-BR'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></body></html>



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