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Subject: Re: [Vm-dev] [squeak-dev] Problem creating MVCProject in Mac
From: Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda () gmail ! com>
Date: 2022-08-15 16:38:47
Message-ID: BEBA32D0-D6B1-4DE5-A02C-5C19BD7CDBEF () gmail ! com
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Hi Javier,
> On Aug 13, 2022, at 3:41 PM, Javier Diaz-Reinoso via Squeak-dev \
> <squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org> wrote:
> But -core-graphics works!, -metal have this message:
>
> 2022-08-13 17:35:32.628 Squeak[10943:21373230] -[sqSqueakOSXHeadlessView \
> sqScreenSize]: unrecognized selector sent to instance 0x7ff77dd45c00
> and stop, so probably the default was -opengl.
> Thanks all for your help.
That's great! Now we have to make this happen automatically. I have an old laptop \
so I could probably get this to work.
>
> > The MBP is in 10.4 but with a patched OS, you can go up to Big Sur if you are \
> > very patient (it use Metal acceleration for the Finder for the first time). This \
> > mac don't support Metal, but the problem is only with MVC, Morphic (and the rest) \
> > works very well (so far). Testing with a lot of clicks I can get the browser \
> > (probably the menu open and the next click select the browser) and the browser \
> > works OK, so I think the problem is with (some) mouse events?. The -opengl flag \
> > don't help, same result.
>
> > On 13 Aug 2022, at 14:07, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205073
> >
> > _,,,^..^,,,_ (phone)
> >
> > > > On Aug 13, 2022, at 12:03 PM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > Hi Javier,
> > >
> > > I expect it's because the Mac doesn't support Metal. If it is the same issue \
> > > as we have with Virtend, the graphics subsystem required Metal support. There \
> > > used to be a -opengl flag that would force the vm to use the opengl back end. \
> > > This may still work.
> > > If it doesn't we could possibly work together on vm-dev (we being the high dpi \
> > > developers, you, and I'll try and give some time; and I do have an old laptop \
> > > that has 10.13 and does not support Metal on which to test) to try and get it \
> > > going again. But if the code is missing from current MacOS, not merely \
> > > deprecated, then it's going to be difficult.
> > > _,,,^..^,,,_ (phone)
> > >
> > > > > On Aug 13, 2022, at 10:54 AM, Bruce O'Neel <bruce.oneel@pckswarms.ch> \
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > So is the OS 10.13 or 10.14 then?
> > > >
> > > > If I would have to guess I would guess that some bit of our new HDPI code is \
> > > > falling over either on 10.13 or 10.14 on that type of display.
> > > > It shouldn't, but, it might be very hard for someone to fix....
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > cheers
> > > >
> > > > bruce
> > > >
> > > > On 2022-08-13T19:27:11.000+02:00, Javier Diaz-Reinoso <javier_diaz_r@mac.com> \
> > > > wrote: Its an old 2011 who is only Apple supported to 10.13:
> > > > Hardware Overview:
> > > >
> > > > Model Name: MacBook Pro
> > > > Model Identifier: MacBookPro8,1
> > > > Processor Name: Intel Core i7
> > > > Processor Speed: 2.7 GHz
> > > > Number of Processors: 1
> > > > Total Number of Cores: 2
> > > > L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
> > > > L3 Cache: 4 MB
> > > > Hyper-Threading Technology: Enabled
> > > > Memory: 8 GB
> > > > Boot ROM Version: 87.0.0.0.0
> > > > SMC Version (system): 1.68f99
> > > > Serial Number (system): C02G669EDRJ9
> > > > Hardware UUID: DC85D6C6-A8B9-506A-8753-3AA32ACDA180
> > > > Sudden Motion Sensor:
> > > > State: Enabled
> > > >
> > > > Graphics/Display:
> > > > Intel HD Graphics 3000:
> > > >
> > > > Chipset Model: Intel HD Graphics 3000
> > > > Type: GPU
> > > > Bus: Built-In
> > > > VRAM (Dynamic, Max): 512 MB
> > > > Vendor: Intel
> > > > Device ID: 0x0126
> > > > Revision ID: 0x0009
> > > > Displays:
> > > > Color LCD:
> > > > Display Type: LCD
> > > > Resolution: 1280 x 800
> > > > UI Looks like: 1280 x 800
> > > > Framebuffer Depth: 24-Bit Color (ARGB8888)
> > > > Main Display: Yes
> > > > Mirror: Off
> > > > Online: Yes
> > > > Rotation: Supported
> > > > Automatically Adjust Brightness: No
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Really I don't use the MVC very much, so is not very important to me, I also \
> > > > have an Pi 3B+ who can use.
> > > >
> > > > > On 13 Aug 2022, at 11:29, Bruce O'Neel <bruce.oneel@pckswarms.ch> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > So which Mac Power Book?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm trying to track down info about the display.
> > > > >
> > > > > It might help to run System Report, or what 10.14 called it to see the info \
> > > > > about the display.
> > > > > cheers
> > > > >
> > > > > bruce
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2b456032378f72c0c1fc96275c00c479@infomaniak.com"><Screenshot 2022-08-13 at \
> > > > > 18.24.53.png>
> > > > > > On 2022-08-13T17:33:42.000+02:00, Javier Diaz-Reinoso \
> > > > > > <javier_diaz_r@mac.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 13 Aug 2022, at 02:21, Bruce O'Neel <bruce.oneel@pckswarms.ch> \
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So it does work ok on 10.15. I guess you stay on 10.14 because 10.15 \
> > > > > > > doesn't work on your mac, right?
> > > > > > Yes
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I did see these sorts of problems when we were working towards a release \
> > > > > > and it might be related to the HDPI code that was put in. Is it possible \
> > > > > > to try changing the resolution of the screen and see if that fixes it?
> > > > > No, this is a MBP 1280x800 I can only change to 1152x720 or 1024x840 \
> > > > > neither works. Testing in 5.3 I see the Quit entry in the mac menu also \
> > > > > don't work to exit the image (why?) so that is not relevant.
> > > > > > Also, what is the display?
> > > > > Only the gray background:
> > > > >
> > > > > <Screen Shot 2022-08-13 at 10.17.12.png>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > bruce
> > > > > >
> > > > > > fbe1c8cdc44f10e9e2867310e1395ab2@infomaniak.com"><Screenshot 2022-08-13 \
> > > > > > at 09.17.54.png>
> > > > > > On 2022-08-12T21:02:21.000+02:00, Javier Diaz-Reinoso via Squeak-dev \
> > > > > > <squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org> wrote: I download \
> > > > > > Squeak6.0-22104-64bit.dmg, extract app, run, skip configuration, menu \
> > > > > > Create MVCProject, enter, click but the main menu don't open, I need to \
> > > > > > Force Quit to exit the image.
> > > > > > Tested Squeak6.0-22104-64bit-202206021410-Windows-x64 in VirtualBox Win10 \
> > > > > > and that works OK, so is probably a VM bug.
> > > > > > Mac is in Mojave 10.14.6.
> > > > > > fbe1c8cdc44f10e9e2867310e1395ab2@infomaniak.com"><Screenshot 2022-08-13 \
> > > > > > at 09.17.54.png>
> > > > > 2b456032378f72c0c1fc96275c00c479@infomaniak.com"><Screenshot 2022-08-13 at \
> > > > > 18.24.53.png>
> > > >
> >
>
>
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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; \
charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr">Hi Javier,</div><div \
dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Aug 13, 2022, at 3:41 PM, Javier \
Diaz-Reinoso via Squeak-dev <squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org> \
wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta \
http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">But -core-graphics \
works!, -metal have this message:<div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div \
class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">2022-08-13 17:35:32.628 \
Squeak[10943:21373230] -[sqSqueakOSXHeadlessView sqScreenSize]: unrecognized selector \
sent to instance 0x7ff77dd45c00</div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div \
class="">and stop, so probably the default was -opengl.</div><div class="">Thanks all \
for your help.</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That's \
great! Now we have to make this happen automatically. I have an old \
laptop so I could probably get this to work.</div><div><br></div><blockquote \
type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div \
class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class="">The MBP is in 10.4 but \
with a patched OS, you can go up to Big Sur if you are very patient (it use Metal \
acceleration for the Finder for the first time).<div class="">This mac don't support \
Metal, but the problem is only with MVC, Morphic (and the rest) works very well (so \
far).</div><div class="">Testing with a lot of clicks I can get the browser (probably \
the menu open and the next click select the browser) and the browser works OK, so I \
think the problem is with (some) mouse events?.</div><div class="">The -opengl flag \
don't help, same result.</div></blockquote><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" \
class=""><div class="">On 13 Aug 2022, at 14:07, Eliot Miranda <<a \
href="mailto:eliot.miranda@gmail.com" class="">eliot.miranda@gmail.com</a>> \
wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta \
http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" \
class=""><a href="https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205073" \
class="">https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205073</a><br class=""><br class=""><div \
dir="ltr" class=""><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" \
class="">_,,,^..^,,,_ (phone)</span></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br \
class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Aug 13, 2022, at 12:03 PM, Eliot Miranda \
<<a href="mailto:eliot.miranda@gmail.com" class="">eliot.miranda@gmail.com</a>> \
wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" \
class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" \
content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class="">Hi Javier,<div class=""><br \
class=""></div><div class=""> I expect it's because the Mac doesn't \
support Metal. If it is the same issue as we have with Virtend, the graphics \
subsystem required Metal support. There used to be a -opengl flag that would \
force the vm to use the opengl back end. This may still work.</div><div \
class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If it doesn't we could possibly work \
together on vm-dev (we being the high dpi developers, you, and I'll try and give some \
time; and I do have an old laptop that has 10.13 and does not support Metal on which \
to test) to try and get it going again. But if the code is missing from current \
MacOS, not merely deprecated, then it's going to be difficult.<br class=""><br \
class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, \
0);" class="">_,,,^..^,,,_ (phone)</span></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br \
class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Aug 13, 2022, at 10:54 AM, Bruce O'Neel \
<<a href="mailto:bruce.oneel@pckswarms.ch" \
class="">bruce.oneel@pckswarms.ch</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br \
class=""></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" \
class=""><div class="">So is the OS 10.13 or 10.14 then?<br class=""></div><div \
class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If I would have to guess I would guess that \
some bit of our new HDPI code is falling over either on 10.13 or 10.14 on that type \
of display. <br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It \
shouldn't, but, it might be very hard for someone to fix....<br class=""></div><div \
class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br \
class=""></div><div class="">cheers<br class=""></div><div class=""><br \
class=""></div><div class="">bruce<br class=""></div><div class=""><br \
class=""></div><div class="answerContentMessage ik_mail_quote"><div class="">On \
2022-08-13T19:27:11.000+02:00, Javier Diaz-Reinoso <<a \
href="mailto:javier_diaz_r@mac.com" class="">javier_diaz_r@mac.com</a>> \
wrote:</div><blockquote class="ws-ng-quote"><div \
class="ws-ng-mail-style--516337eJzz9HPyjwAABGYBgQ">Its an old 2011 who is only Apple \
supported to 10.13:<div class=""><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
169.9px;text-indent:-169.9px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""><b class="">Hardware Overview:</b></div><div \
style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;min-height:14px;" class=""><br \
class=""></div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
169.9px;text-indent:-169.9px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> Model Name:<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>MacBook Pro</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
169.9px;text-indent:-169.9px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> Model Identifier:<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>MacBookPro8,1</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
169.9px;text-indent:-169.9px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> Processor Name:<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>Intel Core i7</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
169.9px;text-indent:-169.9px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> Processor Speed:<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>2.7 GHz</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
169.9px;text-indent:-169.9px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> Number of Processors:<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>1</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
169.9px;text-indent:-169.9px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> Total Number of Cores:<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>2</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
169.9px;text-indent:-169.9px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> L2 Cache (per Core):<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>256 KB</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
169.9px;text-indent:-169.9px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> L3 Cache:<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>4 MB</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
169.9px;text-indent:-169.9px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> Hyper-Threading Technology:<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>Enabled</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
169.9px;text-indent:-169.9px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> Memory:<span class="" style="white-space:pre;"> </span>8 \
GB</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
169.9px;text-indent:-169.9px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> Boot ROM Version:<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span><a class="defaultMailLink" href="http://87.0.0.0.0/" \
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" \
data-ik="ik-secure">87.0.0.0.0</a></div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
169.9px;text-indent:-169.9px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> SMC Version (system):<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>1.68f99</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
169.9px;text-indent:-169.9px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> Serial Number (system):<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>C02G669EDRJ9</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
169.9px;text-indent:-169.9px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> Hardware UUID:<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>DC85D6C6-A8B9-506A-8753-3AA32ACDA180</div><div \
style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
169.9px;text-indent:-169.9px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> Sudden Motion Sensor:</div><div style="margin:0px 0px \
0px 65.2px;text-indent:-45.3px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> State:<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>Enabled</div><div \
style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;min-height:14px;" class=""><br \
class=""></div></div><div class="">Graphics/Display:</div><div class=""><div \
style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
134.7px;text-indent:-134.8px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""><b class="">Intel HD Graphics 3000:</b></div><div \
style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;min-height:14px;" class=""><br \
class=""></div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
134.7px;text-indent:-134.8px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> Chipset Model:<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>Intel HD Graphics 3000</div><div style="margin:0px \
0px 0px 134.7px;text-indent:-134.8px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> Type:<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>GPU</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
134.7px;text-indent:-134.8px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> Bus:<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>Built-In</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
134.7px;text-indent:-134.8px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> VRAM (Dynamic, Max):<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>512 MB</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
134.7px;text-indent:-134.8px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> Vendor:<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>Intel</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
134.7px;text-indent:-134.8px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> Device ID:<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>0x0126</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
134.7px;text-indent:-134.8px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> Revision ID:<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>0x0009</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
134.7px;text-indent:-134.8px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> Displays:</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
204.1px;text-indent:-184.1px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""><b class="">Color LCD:</b></div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
204.1px;text-indent:-184.1px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> Display Type:<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>LCD</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
204.1px;text-indent:-184.1px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> Resolution:<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>1280 x 800</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
204.1px;text-indent:-184.1px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> UI Looks like:<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>1280 x 800</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
204.1px;text-indent:-184.1px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> Framebuffer Depth:<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>24-Bit Color (ARGB8888)</div><div style="margin:0px \
0px 0px 204.1px;text-indent:-184.1px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> Main Display:<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>Yes</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
204.1px;text-indent:-184.1px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> Mirror:<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>Off</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
204.1px;text-indent:-184.1px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> Online:<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>Yes</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
204.1px;text-indent:-184.1px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> Rotation:<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>Supported</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
204.1px;text-indent:-184.1px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""> Automatically Adjust Brightness:<span class="" \
style="white-space:pre;"> </span>No</div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
204.1px;text-indent:-184.1px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
204.1px;text-indent:-184.1px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:11px;font-family:"Helvetica \
Neue";" class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Really I don't use the MVC \
very much, so is not very important to me, I also have an Pi 3B+ who can \
use.</div><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" \
class=""><div class="">On 13 Aug 2022, at 11:29, Bruce O'Neel <<a \
class="defaultMailLink" \
href="mailto:bruce.oneel@pckswarms.ch">bruce.oneel@pckswarms.ch</a>> \
wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div style="caret-color:rgb(0, 0, \
0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;fon \
t-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform: \
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