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Subject:    Re: [Newbies] Book morph UI question
From:       John-Reed Maffeo <jrmaffeo () gmail ! com>
Date:       2017-09-06 5:00:19
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Yoshiki,

Thanks for your prompt reply! I don't understand the inner workings of
fonts in Squeak but am happy to know that my guess was correct.

- jrm

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima <Yoshiki.Ohshima@acm.org>
wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 1:54 PM, John-Reed Maffeo <jrmaffeo@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hello Vaidotas,
> >
> > You will have to ask the developer (yo 1/14/2005 19:25). It is defined
> this
> > way in the method #fullControlSpecs in the class #BooklikeMorph. It is
> the
> > #ByteString value 179.I guess that it is an artifact of some changes th=
at
> > have been made over the years.
>
> Traditionally BookMorph title bar uses =E2=97=8A, since when the internal
> encoding of the system was MacRoman.  The character is called
> "Lozenge".
>
> When we changed the internal encoding to Unicode and I remember hand
> editing some of the fonts.  I can't really remember what was going on.
> It is a bit funky that the code point is 179 yet showing Lozenge (i.e.
> the Accuny font has that glyphs at 179).  From 3.8 and later versions,
> the code was carried over but now the default font uses Latin-1
> encoding, and code point 179 is shown ad upper script three.
>
> >
> > I am still learning Squeak. I discovered this by searching for the
> string in
> > the control's help bubble, 'More Controls'.
> >
> > Note: On Win 7 the behavior is different than it it on Mac OS! On Win t=
he
> > character changes when I mouse it, On Mac, it does not.
> >
> > Hopes this helps!
> >
> > jrm
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 4:31 AM, Vaidotas Did=C5=BEbalis <vaidasd@gmail=
.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >> Why 'more controls' button in the Book morph has '3' as its title?
> >> regards,
> >> Vaidotas
> >>
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> --
> -- Yoshiki
>
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<div dir="ltr">Yoshiki,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for your prompt reply! I don&#39;t \
understand the inner workings of fonts in Squeak but am happy to know that my guess \
was correct.  </div><div><br></div><div>- jrm</div></div><div \
class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:17 AM, \
Yoshiki Ohshima <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:Yoshiki.Ohshima@acm.org" \
target="_blank">Yoshiki.Ohshima@acm.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 1:54 PM, John-Reed \
Maffeo &lt;<a href="mailto:jrmaffeo@gmail.com">jrmaffeo@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br> \
&gt; Hello Vaidotas,<br> &gt;<br>
&gt; You will have to ask the developer (yo 1/14/2005 19:25). It is defined this<br>
&gt; way in the method #fullControlSpecs in the class #BooklikeMorph. It is the<br>
&gt; #ByteString value 179.I guess that it is an artifact of some changes that<br>
&gt; have been made over the years.<br>
<br>
</span>Traditionally BookMorph title bar uses ◊, since when the internal<br>
encoding of the system was MacRoman.   The character is called<br>
&quot;Lozenge&quot;.<br>
<br>
When we changed the internal encoding to Unicode and I remember hand<br>
editing some of the fonts.   I can&#39;t really remember what was going on.<br>
It is a bit funky that the code point is 179 yet showing Lozenge (i.e.<br>
the Accuny font has that glyphs at 179).   From 3.8 and later versions,<br>
the code was carried over but now the default font uses Latin-1<br>
encoding, and code point 179 is shown ad upper script three.<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I am still learning Squeak. I discovered this by searching for the string in<br>
&gt; the control&#39;s help bubble, &#39;More Controls&#39;.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Note: On Win 7 the behavior is different than it it on Mac OS! On Win the<br>
&gt; character changes when I mouse it, On Mac, it does not.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Hopes this helps!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; jrm<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 4:31 AM, Vaidotas Didžbalis &lt;<a \
href="mailto:vaidasd@gmail.com">vaidasd@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br> &gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Hello,<br>
&gt;&gt; Why &#39;more controls&#39; button in the Book morph has &#39;3&#39; as its \
title?<br> &gt;&gt; regards,<br>
&gt;&gt; Vaidotas<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
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-- Yoshiki<br>
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