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Subject: Re: [Spacewalk-list] Which version of Spacewalk is the same as Redhat Satellite 6?
From: Kobus Bensch <kobus () giffgaff ! co ! uk>
Date: 2017-01-30 9:13:37
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Not on this project no. Spacewalk gave me what I wanted, just like chef or ansible or \
puppet would have.
My next project I intend to integrate ansible with spacewalk.
>
> On 27 Jan 2017, at 17:24, Przemyslaw Bak <P.Bak@cmcmarkets.com> wrote:
>
> I agree with you guys – the right tool for the right job J
>
> @Kobus – I bet if you tried other tools [*] you would change your mind about \
> Satellite being the right tool for configuration management. I don't say it is not \
> possible – but there are other tools which make it much, much more easier than \
> Satellite.
> [*] personally recommend Ansible J
>
> From: spacewalk-list-bounces@redhat.com <mailto:spacewalk-list-bounces@redhat.com> \
> [mailto:spacewalk-list-bounces@redhat.com \
> <mailto:spacewalk-list-bounces@redhat.com>] On Behalf Of Konstantin \
> Raskoshnyi
> Sent: 27 January 2017 17:05
> To: spacewalk-list@redhat.com <mailto:spacewalk-list@redhat.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spacewalk-list] Which version of Spacewalk is the same as Redhat \
> Satellite 6?
> Ok, it's just your personal opinion, but I bet you didn't work with software like \
> chef and ansible.
> Cheers
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 8:45 AM Kobus Bensch <kobus@giffgaff.co.uk \
> <mailto:kobus@giffgaff.co.uk>> wrote: Hi
>
> Beg to differ on the config management. It is great with it. You just need to know \
> how. Does macros, templates the lot.
> Kobus Bensch
>
>
> On 27 Jan 2017, at 16:24, Konstantin Raskoshnyi <konrasko@gmail.com \
> <mailto:konrasko@gmail.com>> wrote:
> With all respect to spacewalk - it's a great product, but not for config \
> management. Maximum for static templates. But it's a good soft for package \
> updates, ks and revision of your machines.
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 2:00 AM Kobus Bensch <kobus@giffgaff.co.uk \
> <mailto:kobus@giffgaff.co.uk>> wrote: As far as spacewalk is concerned, you can \
> have a FULL configuration management system with templates, variables and machine \
> specific setup just like what puppet, cfengine, chef or sensible will give you. You \
> just need to know how. I managed 460 servers in this way with spacewalk.
>
>
> > On 27 Jan 2017, at 02:04, Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1@gmail.com \
> > <mailto:prmarino1@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > Just so you know its also the upstream project for SUSE Manager, and
> > Oracle supports it as well.
> > the new satellite 6 code base, and SAM are nice implementations of the
> > technologies mentioned above, but is philosophically not just
> > technologically different especially when it comes to configuration
> > management.
> >
> > Also after a certain version in the Satellite 5 series they started
> > including https://github.com/splice/spacewalk-splice-tool \
> > <https://github.com/splice/spacewalk-splice-tool> in RHN satellite 5 to sync it \
> > with SAM (Subscription Asset Manager). SAM is registration and package repo proxy \
> > for access.redhat.com <http://access.redhat.com/> based on the satellite 6 code, \
> > its free with RHEL support but doesn't include configuration management, or \
> > provisioning, and only supports rudimentary package management on its own.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 7:36 PM, Daniel Swan <swan_daniel@hotmail.com \
> > <mailto:swan_daniel@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> > > On a related note, does anyone have a list of which Spacewalk versions
> > > (Roughly) correlate to which (non-6) Satellite versions?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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-webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Not on this project no. Spacewalk \
gave me what I wanted, just like chef or ansible or puppet would have.<div \
class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My next project I intend to integrate \
ansible with spacewalk.<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div \
class=""><br class=""></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><br \
class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 27 Jan 2017, at 17:24, \
Przemyslaw Bak <<a href="mailto:P.Bak@cmcmarkets.com" \
class="">P.Bak@cmcmarkets.com</a>> wrote:</div><br \
class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" \
style="page: WordSection1; font-family: CourierNewPSMT; font-size: 12px; font-style: \
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; \
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; \
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: \
0px;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New \
Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, \
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I agree with you guys – the right \
tool for the right job<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span \
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Wingdings; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" \
class="">J</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; \
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div \
style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', \
serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; \
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div \
style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', \
serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; \
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">@Kobus – I bet if you tried other tools [*] you \
would change your mind about Satellite being the right tool<o:p \
class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; \
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; \
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">for \
configuration management. I don't say it is not possible – but there are other \
tools which make it much, much more<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div \
style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', \
serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; \
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">easier than Satellite.<o:p \
class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; \
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; \
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p \
class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: \
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; \
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">[*] personally \
recommend Ansible<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span \
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Wingdings; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" \
class="">J</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; \
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div \
style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', \
serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; \
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div \
style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', \
serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: \
Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: \
10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span \
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a \
href="mailto:spacewalk-list-bounces@redhat.com" style="color: purple; \
text-decoration: underline;" class="">spacewalk-list-bounces@redhat.com</a><span \
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a \
href="mailto:spacewalk-list-bounces@redhat.com" style="color: purple; \
text-decoration: underline;" \
class="">mailto:spacewalk-list-bounces@redhat.com</a>]<span \
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span \
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Konstantin Raskoshnyi<br class=""><b \
class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>27 January 2017 \
17:05<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span \
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:spacewalk-list@redhat.com" \
style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" \
class="">spacewalk-list@redhat.com</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span \
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Spacewalk-list] Which version of \
Spacewalk is the same as Redhat Satellite 6?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div \
style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', \
serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: \
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" \
class="">Ok, it's just your personal opinion, but I bet you didn't work with software \
like chef and ansible. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div \
style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', \
serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div \
style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', \
serif;" class="">Cheers <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div \
class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times \
New Roman', serif;" class="">On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 8:45 AM Kobus Bensch <<a \
href="mailto:kobus@giffgaff.co.uk" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" \
class="">kobus@giffgaff.co.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p \
class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; \
border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1pt; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm \
6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;" class=""><div class=""><div \
style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', \
serif;" class="">Hi<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm \
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p \
class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; \
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Beg to differ on \
the config management. It is great with it. You just need to know how. Does macros, \
templates the lot.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div \
class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times \
New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div \
class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times \
New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'Courier \
New';" class="">Kobus Bensch<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div \
style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', \
serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" \
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div \
style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', \
serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" \
class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div><div \
class=""><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; \
margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; \
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">On 27 Jan 2017, at \
16:24, Konstantin Raskoshnyi <<a href="mailto:konrasko@gmail.com" target="_blank" \
style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" \
class="">konrasko@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div \
style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', \
serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div \
style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', \
serif;" class="">With all respect to spacewalk - it's a great product, but not for \
config management. Maximum for static templates. <o:p \
class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; \
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">But it's a good \
soft for package updates, ks and revision of your machines. <o:p \
class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; \
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p \
class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; \
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p \
class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm \
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">On Fri, \
Jan 27, 2017 at 2:00 AM Kobus Bensch <<a href="mailto:kobus@giffgaff.co.uk" \
target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" \
class="">kobus@giffgaff.co.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p \
class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; \
border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1pt; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm \
6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm \
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">As far as \
spacewalk is concerned, you can have a FULL configuration management system with \
templates, variables and machine specific setup just like what puppet, cfengine, chef \
or sensible will give you. You just need to know how. I managed 460 servers in this \
way with spacewalk.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">> On 27 Jan \
2017, at 02:04, Paul Robert Marino <<a href="mailto:prmarino1@gmail.com" \
target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" \
class="">prmarino1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">><br class="">> Just so \
you know its also the upstream project for SUSE Manager, and<br class="">> Oracle \
supports it as well.<br class="">> the new satellite 6 code base, and SAM are nice \
implementations of the<br class="">> technologies mentioned above, but is \
philosophically not just<br class="">> technologically different especially when \
it comes to configuration<br class="">> management.<br class="">><br \
class="">> Also after a certain version in the Satellite 5 series they started<br \
class="">> including<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a \
href="https://github.com/splice/spacewalk-splice-tool" target="_blank" style="color: \
purple; text-decoration: underline;" \
class="">https://github.com/splice/spacewalk-splice-tool</a><span \
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>in RHN<br class="">> satellite 5 to \
sync it with SAM (Subscription Asset Manager). SAM is<br class="">> registration \
and package repo proxy for<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a \
href="http://access.redhat.com/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; \
text-decoration: underline;" class="">access.redhat.com</a><span \
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>based on the<br class="">> satellite 6 \
code, its free with RHEL support but doesn't include<br class="">> configuration \
management, or provisioning, and only supports<br class="">> rudimentary package \
management on its own.<br class="">><br class="">><br class="">><br \
class="">> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 7:36 PM, Daniel Swan <<a \
href="mailto:swan_daniel@hotmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; \
text-decoration: underline;" class="">swan_daniel@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br \
class="">>> On a related note, does anyone have a list of which Spacewalk \
versions<br class="">>> (Roughly) correlate to which (non-6) Satellite \
versions?<br class="">>><br class="">>><br class="">>><br \
class="">>><br class="">>><br class="">>><br class="">>> \
_______________________________________________<br class="">>> Spacewalk-list \
mailing list<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a \
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class="">><br class="">> _______________________________________________<br \
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class="">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/spacewalk-list</a><o:p \
class=""></o:p></div></blockquote></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; \
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class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Spacewalk-list \
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font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p \
class=""> </o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; \
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