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Subject:    [Soekris] Re: wireless backup / nas
From:       pikofarad () bredband ! net (Peter Fors)
Date:       2004-03-23 23:57:24
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Yes. The net4801 should serve your needs well. You will need to use a 2.5"
notebook drive.

/ Peter Fors

"Aaron Wallace" <Aaron@agforest.com> wrote in message
news:CDEKJEMECJGLBBDJEDKCIEMKCDAA.Aaron@agforest.com...
> I need to build a wireless ap with a hard drive in it... I want to
> wirelessly ftp files to the hard drive and then have the box dial a modem
to
> send a signal to a central place to log the files that were stored
> there........
>
> can this be done with any soekris gear?
>
> thanks
>
> aaron wallace
>
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>    1. Re: Re: Power Supply (Chad R. Larson)
>    2. Re: Re: Power Supply (Louis A. Mamakos)
>    3. net4801 and Routerboard 24 interrupt problem (Michael Smith)
>    4. Looking for 3.3v PCI NTSC video-in card for net4801 (Dan Withers)
>    5. Re: Re: Power Supply (Chuck Yerkes)
>    6. Re: Re: Power Supply (Stefan Hudson)
>    7. Re: Looking for 3.3v PCI NTSC video-in card for net4801 (Joel
Jaeggli)
>    8. 4521 POE (Rich Plishka)
>    9. Re: Re: Power Supply (Jared Solomon)
>   10. Re: 4521 POE (Brent Davidson)
>   11. Re: 4521 POE (Sameer Verma)
>   12. Re: 4521 POE (David Young)
>   13. Re: 4521 POE (Brent Davidson)
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 16:04:17 -0700
> From: "Chad R. Larson" <chad@DCFinc.com>
> To: Stefan Hudson <hudson@mbay.net>
> Cc: soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com
> Subject: Re: [Soekris] Re: Power Supply
>
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 09:56:38PM -0800, Stefan Hudson wrote:
> > For what it's worth, standard POTS circuits are 48VDC on hook and 90VAC
> > ring voltage, so any cable designed to carry POTS (basically any cable
> > used for Ethernet) should be able to handle ~50VDC with no trouble.
>
> For what it's worth, standard POTS circuits are whatever DC volts it
> takes to shove 60mA through a "standard" phone.
>
> -crl
> --
> Chad R. Larson (CRL15)   602-953-1392   Brother, can you paradigm?
> chad@dcfinc.com         chad@larsons.org          larson1@home.com
> DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> To: "Chad R. Larson" <chad@DCFinc.com>
> cc: Stefan Hudson <hudson@mbay.net>, soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com
> From: "Louis A. Mamakos" <louie+soekris-tech@TransSys.COM>
> Subject: Re: [Soekris] Re: Power Supply
> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:11:44 -0500
>
> > On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 09:56:38PM -0800, Stefan Hudson wrote:
> > > For what it's worth, standard POTS circuits are 48VDC on hook and
90VAC
> > > ring voltage, so any cable designed to carry POTS (basically any cable
> > > used for Ethernet) should be able to handle ~50VDC with no trouble.
> >
> > For what it's worth, standard POTS circuits are whatever DC volts it
> > takes to shove 60mA through a "standard" phone.
> >
>
> I think there is an upper bound on the voltage, probably about -52VDC
> or whatever the float voltage is on the large stack of batteries used
> to power the equipment.
>
> louie
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:23:14 -0500 (EST)
> From: Michael Smith <msmith@cbnco.com>
> To: soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com
> Subject: [Soekris] net4801 and Routerboard 24 interrupt problem
>
> Hi all,
>
> We recently purchased a couple of 3.3v Mikrotik Routerboard 24 4-port
> NICs. In a Soekris net4801 running Linux 2.4.25 and using the standard
> in-kernel natsemi driver, the second and fourth ports on the Routerboard
> don't generate interrupts when packets arrive. Packets are buffered, and
> appear in the network stack only when the first or third interface
> receives a packet and generates an interrupt.
>
> If I leave a "ping" process running on another machine connected to the
> Soekris' eth4 or eth6, nothing happens until I ping eth3 or eth5 from
> another machine. Then I get a flurry of ICMP replies, and the interrupt
> count goes up by only two.
>
> I've tried two different Routerboards on two net4801s with the same
> results. I tried going back to kernel 2.4.20 with the same result. I also
> tried a couple of net4501s just in case, but couldn't get the interfaces
> to come up: the Soekris assigned all the Routerboard NICs IRQ 0 (no IRQ?)
> on boot.
>
> I also tried on a recent PC running 2.4.24, in two configurations: all
> Routerboard ports on different IRQs, and all ports on the same IRQ. It
> worked as expected, so I think the problem is specific to the net4801.
>
> The Soekris BIOS (1.23) reports the following PCI devices:
>
> Slot   Vend Dev  ClassRev Cmd  Stat CL LT HT  Base1    Base2   Int
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> 0:00:0 1078 0001 06000000 0107 0280 00 00 00 00000000 00000000 00
> 0:06:0 100B 0020 02000000 0107 0290 00 3F 00 0000E101 A0000000 10
> 0:07:0 100B 0020 02000000 0107 0290 00 3F 00 0000E201 A0001000 10
> 0:08:0 100B 0020 02000000 0107 0290 00 3F 00 0000E301 A0002000 10
> 0:10:0 3388 0021 06040015 0107 0290 08 3F 01 00000000 00000000 I5
> 0:18:2 100B 0502 01018001 0005 0280 00 00 00 00000000 00000000 00
> 0:19:0 0E11 A0F8 0C031008 0117 0280 08 38 00 A0003000 00000000 11
> 1:08:0 100B 0020 02000000 0107 0290 00 3F 00 0000D001 A4000000 05
> 1:09:0 100B 0020 02000000 0107 0290 00 3F 00 0000D101 A4001000 05
> 1:10:0 100B 0020 02000000 0107 0290 00 3F 00 0000D201 A4002000 05
> 1:11:0 100B 0020 02000000 0107 0290 00 3F 00 0000D301 A4003000 05
>
>
> The bottom four lines, on IRQ 5, are the Routerboard, I think.
>
> In Linux:
>
> # cat /proc/interrupts
>            CPU0
>   0:      18875          XT-PIC  timer
>   1:          0          XT-PIC  keyboard
>   2:          0          XT-PIC  cascade
>   4:       1424          XT-PIC  serial
>   5:         47          XT-PIC  eth3, eth4, eth5, eth6
>   8:          0          XT-PIC  rtc
>  10:         33          XT-PIC  eth0, eth1, eth2
>  14:      11486          XT-PIC  hd
> NMI:          0
> ERR:          0
>
>
> I'm going to try adding a 100ms rx poll timer to the natsemi driver... not
> pretty but it might work :)
>
> Is there any way to change the way the net4801 assigns IRQs? If I could
> force one or two of the ports to different IRQs, it might make for a
> better workaround.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> From: "Dan Withers" <dwithers@lot66.com>
> To: <soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com>
> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:52:30 -0800
> Subject: [Soekris] Looking for 3.3v PCI NTSC video-in card for net4801
>
> We have dug everywhere for a PCI card to feed ntsc video in from a video
> camera. Has anyone else had more success?
>
> Dan Withers
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 20:14:27 -0500
> From: Chuck Yerkes <chuck+soekris@2004.snew.com>
> To: soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com
> Subject: Re: [Soekris] Re: Power Supply
> Reply-To: soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com
>
> Quoting Chad R. Larson (chad@DCFinc.com):
> > On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 09:56:38PM -0800, Stefan Hudson wrote:
> > > For what it's worth, standard POTS circuits are 48VDC on hook and
90VAC
> > > ring voltage, so any cable designed to carry POTS (basically any cable
> > > used for Ethernet) should be able to handle ~50VDC with no trouble.
> >
> > For what it's worth, standard POTS circuits are whatever DC volts it
> > takes to shove 60mA through a "standard" phone.
>
> And that power is shoved several THOUSAND feet over different
> types of cables that might come into your house.
>
>
> Thomas Glover
> Pocket Ref.
>
> My GirlF (bless her) bought me the new one since my other one was
> from 1992 or so.  I can amuse myself just skimming through it.
> Airline reservation numbers, area codes, load bearing of joists
> by size and length, melting tempurature of lots of things.  Also
> voltage drop by distance over different gauges of wire.
>
> This one came from Ace Hardware.  It's everywhere.
> It's pocket sized.
>
> The soekris will die on more than 56VDC over PoE.  Your 26G solid
> core cable will breakdown if you run 2000VDC over it with ground
> adjacent, I'm sure.  Wanna power that washing machine at 10Amps?
> Don't use a network cable.
>
> Wanna learn basic electronics?  Books and google abound.  DC is
> really pretty easy.
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 18:43:28 -0800
> From: Stefan Hudson <hudson@mbay.net>
> CC: soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com
> Subject: Re: [Soekris] Re: Power Supply
>
> > For what it's worth, standard POTS circuits are whatever DC volts it
> > takes to shove 60mA through a "standard" phone.
>
> Off hook, yes.  But I said on hook.  On hook, it floats to something
> around 48VDC (plus or minus a few v depending on how the 4 car batteries
> batteries & charger are feeling).  It's not going to get any higher than
> maybe 56v on hook, barring lightning strikes (and ring voltage).
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 07:53:36 -0800 (PST)
> From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja@darkwing.uoregon.edu>
> To: Dan Withers <dwithers@lot66.com>
> cc: soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com
> Subject: Re: [Soekris] Looking for 3.3v PCI NTSC video-in card for net4801
>
> the conexant bt878a which is used on maybe 80% of the consumer pci capture
> cards these days is +5v only so you won't see any 3.3volt cards built
> around it.
>
> joelja
>
> On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Dan Withers wrote:
>
> > We have dug everywhere for a PCI card to feed ntsc video in from a video
> > camera. Has anyone else had more success?
> >
> > Dan Withers
> >
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>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Joel Jaeggli         Unix Consulting        joelja@darkwing.uoregon.edu
> GPG Key Fingerprint:     5C6E 0104 BAF0 40B0 5BD3 C38B F000 35AB B67F 56B2
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 13:20:54 -0500 (EST)
> From: Rich Plishka <plishka@cs.scranton.edu>
> To: soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com
> Subject: [Soekris] 4521 POE
>
>
> just picked up (my first) net4521.. got it with the poe ps that soekris
> sells... no power connector for the system unit included with the power
> supply.. i'm assuming that the "data and power out" can be connected
> directly to eth0 & both power & data will be handled by eth0 on the
> 4521...
>
> don't want to smoke the system if i'm wrong... can i run both power & data
> into eth0?  how about eth1?
>
> tia..
> rich..
>
> --
> rich plishka                      plishka@cs.scranton.edu
> computing sciences dept.          phone: (570) 941-6111
> university of scranton            fax:   (570) 941-4250
> scranton, pa 18510   www.cs.scranton.edu/~plishka
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:38:01 -0600 (CST)
> From: Jared Solomon <jsolomon@cse.unl.edu>
> To: soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com
> Subject: Re: [Soekris] Re: Power Supply
>
> FWIW, CAT5 is rated to 600V at low amperage.
>
>
> On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Chad R. Larson wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 09:56:38PM -0800, Stefan Hudson wrote:
> > > For what it's worth, standard POTS circuits are 48VDC on hook and
90VAC
> > > ring voltage, so any cable designed to carry POTS (basically any cable
> > > used for Ethernet) should be able to handle ~50VDC with no trouble.
> >
> > For what it's worth, standard POTS circuits are whatever DC volts it
> > takes to shove 60mA through a "standard" phone.
> >
> > -crl
> > --
> > Chad R. Larson (CRL15)   602-953-1392   Brother, can you paradigm?
> > chad@dcfinc.com         chad@larsons.org          larson1@home.com
> > DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207
> > _____________________________________________________________________
> > Soekris Engineering, technical discussion mailing list
> > [un]subscribe: http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
> >
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 12:38:27 -0600
> From: Brent Davidson <brentd@tlab.net>
> To: soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com
> Subject: Re: [Soekris] 4521 POE
>
> Well, speaking from experience ONLY plug the poe injector into eth0.  I
> accidently plugged it into eth1 since I didn't know any better and was
> greeted with a nice little orange flash and a puff of smoke.
>
> I tested the port out, and somehow it still works for data even with the
> burned out parts (which look like smd resistors or caps or something).
> I guess I'm lucky, but I will never make the same mistake agtain.
>
> Would be nice if the board designers would make some modifications so
> that the poe could be plugged into either port.
>
> -Brent
>
> Rich Plishka wrote:
>
> >just picked up (my first) net4521.. got it with the poe ps that soekris
> >sells... no power connector for the system unit included with the power
> >supply.. i'm assuming that the "data and power out" can be connected
> >directly to eth0 & both power & data will be handled by eth0 on the
> >4521...
> >
> >don't want to smoke the system if i'm wrong... can i run both power &
data
> >into eth0?  how about eth1?
> >
> >tia..
> >rich..
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 10:39:26 -0800
> From: Sameer Verma <sverma@sfsu.edu>
> Organization: San Francisco State University
> To: Rich Plishka <plishka@cs.scranton.edu>
> CC: soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com
> Subject: Re: [Soekris] 4521 POE
>
> Your network connection (Internet via DSL, etc) goes into J1 "Data only"
> and your CAT5 connector from J2 "Data & Pwr" goes to eth0. Make sure you
> *do not* plug into eth1. I have a 4521 with the power supply from Ault,
> Inc. (says Ault, Inc on the instructions but says ITE on the power
supply).
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Sameer
>
> Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D.
> Asst. Professor of Information Systems
> San Francisco State University
> San Francisco CA 94132 USA
> http://verma.sfsu.edu/
>
>
>
> Rich Plishka wrote:
>
> >just picked up (my first) net4521.. got it with the poe ps that soekris
> >sells... no power connector for the system unit included with the power
> >supply.. i'm assuming that the "data and power out" can be connected
> >directly to eth0 & both power & data will be handled by eth0 on the
> >4521...
> >
> >don't want to smoke the system if i'm wrong... can i run both power &
data
> >into eth0?  how about eth1?
> >
> >tia..
> >rich..
> >
> >
> >
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 12:59:25 -0600
> From: David Young <dyoung@pobox.com>
> To: soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com
> Subject: Re: [Soekris] 4521 POE
>
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 12:38:27PM -0600, Brent Davidson wrote:
> > Well, speaking from experience ONLY plug the poe injector into eth0.  I
> > accidently plugged it into eth1 since I didn't know any better and was
> > greeted with a nice little orange flash and a puff of smoke.
>
> Is this using the Soekris PoE injector or some other injector?
> The Soekris injector is advertised as 802.3af. It is not supposed to
> detect legacy equipment or over-current?
>
> Dave
>
> --
> David Young             OJC Technologies
> dyoung@ojctech.com      Urbana, IL * (217) 278-3933
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 13:08:15 -0600
> From: Brent Davidson <brentd@tlab.net>
> To: soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com
> Subject: Re: [Soekris] 4521 POE
>
> It was the Soekris injector.  I ordered it along with the boards.
>
> David Young wrote:
>
> >On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 12:38:27PM -0600, Brent Davidson wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Well, speaking from experience ONLY plug the poe injector into eth0.  I
> >>accidently plugged it into eth1 since I didn't know any better and was
> >>greeted with a nice little orange flash and a puff of smoke.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Is this using the Soekris PoE injector or some other injector?
> >The Soekris injector is advertised as 802.3af. It is not supposed to
> >detect legacy equipment or over-current?
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
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