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Subject:    Re: [Snort-sigs] External DNS 127.0.0.1 response
From:       James Lay <jlay () slave-tothe-box ! net>
Date:       2013-04-21 23:44:02
Message-ID: 10007168-1C9A-4968-9E26-1D88366D5D0A () slave-tothe-box ! net
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On Apr 21, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Joel Esler <jesler@sourcefire.com> wrote:

> On Apr 21, 2013, at 10:01 AM, lists@packetmail.net wrote:
> > On 04/20/2013 09:43 AM, James Lay wrote:
> > > Yea so this rule is a semi bust due to exactly where you hit it Nathan…RBL and \
> > > SBL lookups will FP on this.  That being said however this rule might be \
> > > helpful in organizations that don't host their own mail server
> > 
> > Yeah, I agree, good rule and good idea, thanks as always James for your ideas
> > and sigs.  I was trying to think of a way to negate SMTP_SERVERS but since this
> > relies on DNS it's going to hit the recursive forwarders at some point in a
> > network and trigger.
> 
> So are we saying this is a good fit for the ruleset?  Or no?
> 
> Joel

I would say include but disable…maybe with with a comment #will FP on RBL/SPF \
lookups?  Just a thought…I'm going to run it especially on intern networks.

James


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1:16 PM, Joel Esler &lt;<a \
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">Yea so this rule is a semi bust due to exactly where you hit it Nathan…RBL and SBL \
lookups will FP on this. &nbsp;That being said however this rule might be helpful in \
organizations that don't host their own mail server<br></blockquote><br \
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!important; float: none; ">Yeah, I agree, good rule and good idea, thanks as always \
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&nbsp;I was trying to think of a way to negate SMTP_SERVERS but since this</span><br \
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would say include but disable…maybe with with a comment #will FP on RBL/SPF lookups? \
&nbsp;Just a thought…I'm going to run it especially on intern \
networks.</div><div><br></div><div>James</div></body></html>



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