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Subject:    [smartmontools-support]Re: Re: [Smartmontools-database]IBM TravelStar Mod#IC25N030ATDA04-0
From:       Bruce Allen <ballen () gravity ! phys ! uwm ! edu>
Date:       2004-06-15 16:12:00
Message-ID: Pine.GSO.4.21.0406151109130.8286-100000 () dirac ! phys ! uwm ! edu
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Hi Rick,

> Thanks for the speedy reply and the info. I was unaware that the
> Smart-tools suite was only 1/2 to 3/4 accurate.

You are mis-stating what I said.  I said that SMART (which is part of the
drive firmware, unrelated to smartmontools) can only predict 1/2 to 3/4 of
drive failures.

Smartmontools reports (with 100% accuracy) what the drive firmware is
reporting.

> Guess I just assumed that if the field was there
> (Throughput_Performance, Seek_Error_Rate, Seek_Time_Performance) then
> the values would be usable. Thanks for clearing it up for me.

The values reported by smartmontools are the ones that the drive firmware
reports.  But you need to read the documentation -- in particular the
parts that say that 'raw values are not defined by any standard, and so
each vendor uses them in their own undocumented way.

> If/when I find out what the drives problem is, or it fails completely
> I'll let you know.

Thanks.

Cheers,
	Bruce
> 
> > 
> > From: Bruce Allen <ballen@gravity.phys.uwm.edu>
> > Date: 2004/06/14 Mon PM 04:27:31 EDT> To: rhruby@adelphia.net
> > CC: Smartmontools-database@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [Smartmontools-database]IBM TravelStar Mod#IC25N030ATDA04-0
> > 
> > > Please submit the following info (IBM TravelStar> > Mod#IC25N030ATDA04-0)for \
> > > inclusion into the drive database. 
> > > Also, can anyone give me a clue as to why this drive checks OK?
> > > Basically it's already failed and has been replaced. The symptoms were
> > > drive was extremely slow. like it was having trouble reading sectors,
> > > or the heads were having a difficult time locating tracks.
> > > Occasionally I could her the drive make a click. But it seemed to not
> > > have any errors logged????
> > > 
> > > Real confused. 
> > 
> > From the information below, I can't see anything obviously wrong.  The
> > drive seemed to think that it's OK.  But note that SMART will only find
> > between 1/2 and 3/4 of disk problems -- the remainder of failures are
> > typically NOT detected/detectable by SMART.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 	Bruce
> > 
> > > smartctl version 5.31 Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce Allen
> > > Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
> > > 
> > > === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
> > > Device Model:     IC25N030ATDA04-0
> > > Serial Number:    64A64MN7303
> > > Firmware Version: DA4OA76A
> > > Device is:        Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
> > > ATA Version is:   5
> > > ATA Standard is:  ATA/ATAPI-5 T13 1321D revision 3
> > > Local Time is:    Fri Jun 11 19:15:23 2004 EDTSMART support is: Available - \
> > > device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled
> > > 
> > > === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
> > > SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
> > > 
> > > General SMART Values:
> > > Offline data collection status:  (0x84) Offline data collection activity
> > > was suspended by an interrupting 
> > > command from host.
> > > Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
> > > Self-test execution status:      ( 241) Self-test routine in progress...
> > > 10% of test remaining.
> > > Total time to complete Offlinedata collection:                 ( 645) seconds.
> > > Offline data collection
> > > capabilities:                    (0x1b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
> > > Auto Offline data collection on/off 
> > > support.
> > > Suspend Offline collection upon new
> > > command.
> > > Offline surface scan supported.
> > > Self-test supported.
> > > No Conveyance Self-test supported.
> > > No Selective Self-test supported.
> > > SMART capabilities:            (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
> > > power-saving mode.
> > > Supports SMART auto save timer.
> > > Error logging capability:        (0x01) Error logging supported.
> > > No General Purpose Logging support.
> > > Short self-test routine
> > > recommended polling time:        (   2) minutes.
> > > Extended self-test routine
> > > recommended polling time:        (  38) minutes.
> > > 
> > > SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
> > > Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
> > > ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  
> > > WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
> > > 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000b   100   100   062    Pre-fail  Always       -
> > > 0
> > > 2 Throughput_Performance  0x0005   100   100   040    Pre-fail  Offline      -
> > > 60510
> > > 3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0007   129   129   033    Pre-fail  Always       -
> > > 1
> > > 4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0012   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -
> > > 3040
> > > 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   005    Pre-fail  Always       -
> > > 0
> > > 7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000b   100   100   067    Pre-fail  Always       -
> > > 0
> > > 8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0005   100   100   040    Pre-fail  Offline      -
> > > 0
> > > 9 Power_On_Hours          0x0012   090   090   000    Old_age   Always       -
> > > 4471
> > > 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   060    Pre-fail  Always       -
> > > 0
> > > 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -
> > > 2585
> > > 191 G-Sense_Error_Rate      0x000a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       \
> > > - 65536
> > > 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       \
> > > - 21
> > > 193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0012   094   094   000    Old_age   Always       \
> > > - 67127
> > > 194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0002   148   148   000    Old_age   Always       \
> > > - 37 (Lifetime Min/Max 6/62)
> > > 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       \
> > > - 0
> > > 197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0022   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       \
> > > - 0
> > > 198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0008   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      \
> > > - 0
> > > 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x000a   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       \
> > > - 0
> > > 
> > > SMART Error Log Version: 1
> > > No Errors Logged
> > > 
> > > SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
> > > Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  
> > > LBA_of_first_error
> > > # 1  Extended offline    Aborted by host               10%      4462         -
> > > # 2  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%      4380         -
> > > 
> > > Device does not support Selective Self Tests/Logging
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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