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Subject:    RE: [security-onion] Vlan Tags in the pcaps?
From:       "Ben Wright" <benw () coriumintl ! com>
Date:       2014-02-27 16:09:15
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That's the plan, but recently on only one of my vlan's they haven't been
getting the appropriate address after tagging correctly. We are trying
to replace our core routing switch and am baffled with this behavior.

 

From: security-onion@googlegroups.com
[mailto:security-onion@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Justin Knox
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:06 AM
To: security-onion@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [security-onion] Vlan Tags in the pcaps?

 

do your phones boot up untagged first, look for a dhcp scope option that
tells them what vlan they're supposed to be on, then reboot to start
tagging their traffic correctly?

 

 

 

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:39 AM, coriumintl <benw@coriumintl.com>
wrote:

it feels simpler to setup specific mirror ports, rather than try and
filter out the noise.

I'm trying to figure out why Voice Vlan doesn't get the correct address
from DHCP when the device is on a specific vlan, but works properly on
the other vlans. my phones always 8021q tag correclty but will get the
wrong IP on a specific vlan.


On Thursday, February 27, 2014 10:28:40 AM UTC-5, Doug Burks wrote:
> I haven't done any VLAN tests myself, but if the issue is strictly
> 
> with netsniff-ng not writing the VLAN tags to disk, perhaps you could
> 
> try using tcpdump/daemonlogger (already included in Security Onion).
> 
> 
> 

> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:25 AM, coriumintl <@coriumintl.com> wrote:
> 
> > So, I'm better off downloading a NST ISO and capturing my traffic on
both ends then.
> 
> > 
> 
> > On Thursday, February 27, 2014 10:14:18 AM UTC-5, Justin Knox wrote:
> 
> > > Hi all,
> 
> > > I should clarify. My final statement in that thread could be
misleading. tcpdump will still see the vlan tags on wide open capture.
netsniff-ng's output to disk has those tags stripped.
> 
> > > 
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> > > 
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> > > 
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> > > --Justin
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> > > 
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> > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 8:43 AM, coriumintl <be...@coriumintl.com>
wrote:
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> > > 
> 
> > > Sort of, what I'm looking is to see the 802.1q tagging. Was hoping,
since I use SO, that I could just use it's Pcaps to try and troubleshoot
an issue i'm having with my Shoretel phones on a specific vlan but I
can't see the tags in the caps.
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> > > I thought I had this working at one time.
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> > > On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:25:08 AM UTC-5, Doug Burks wrote:
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> > > > Can you be more specific, please?  Are you wanting to see VLAN
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> > > > your netsniff-ng pcaps, but they're not appearing there?  Have
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> > > > seen the following thread?
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> > > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 3:25 PM, coriumintl  wrote:
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> > > > > I was wondering what needs to be enabled. my sensors are using
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>That&#8217;s \
the plan, but recently on only one of my vlan&#8217;s they haven&#8217;t been getting \
the appropriate address after tagging correctly. We are trying to replace our core \
routing switch and am baffled with this behavior.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p \
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span \
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security-onion@googlegroups.com [mailto:security-onion@googlegroups.com] <b>On Behalf \
Of </b>Justin Knox<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:06 AM<br><b>To:</b> \
security-onion@googlegroups.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [security-onion] Vlan Tags in \
the pcaps?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p \
class=MsoNormal>do your phones boot up untagged first, look for a dhcp scope option \
that tells them what vlan they're supposed to be on, then reboot to start tagging \
their traffic correctly?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p \
class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal \
style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Feb \
27, 2014 at 10:39 AM, coriumintl &lt;<a href="mailto:benw@coriumintl.com" \
target="_blank">benw@coriumintl.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p \
class=MsoNormal>it feels simpler to setup specific mirror ports, rather than try and \
filter out the noise.<br><br>I'm trying to figure out why Voice Vlan doesn't get the \
correct address from DHCP when the device is on a specific vlan, but works properly \
on the other vlans. my phones always 8021q tag correclty but will get the wrong IP on \
a specific vlan.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>On Thursday, February 27, \
2014 10:28:40 AM UTC-5, Doug Burks wrote:<br>&gt; I haven't done any VLAN tests \
myself, but if the issue is strictly<br>&gt;<br>&gt; with netsniff-ng not writing the \
VLAN tags to disk, perhaps you could<br>&gt;<br>&gt; try using tcpdump/daemonlogger \
(already included in Security \
Onion).<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>&gt; \
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:25 AM, coriumintl &lt;@<a href="http://coriumintl.com" \
target="_blank">coriumintl.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; So, I'm better off \
downloading a NST ISO and capturing my traffic on both ends then.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; \
&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; On Thursday, February 27, 2014 10:14:18 AM UTC-5, Justin \
Knox wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; Hi all,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; I should \
clarify. My final statement in that thread could be misleading. tcpdump will still \
see the vlan tags on wide open capture. netsniff-ng's output to disk has those tags \
stripped.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; \
&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; --Justin<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; \
&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at \
8:43 AM, coriumintl &lt;<a \
href="mailto:be...@coriumintl.com">be...@coriumintl.com</a>&gt; \
wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; Sort of, what I'm looking is \
to see the 802.1q tagging. Was hoping, since I use SO, that I could just use it's \
Pcaps to try and troubleshoot an issue i'm having with my Shoretel phones on a \
specific vlan but I can't see the tags in the caps.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; \
&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; \
&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; I thought I had this working at one \
time.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; \
&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; On Wednesday, February 26, \
2014 7:25:08 AM UTC-5, Doug Burks wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; \
&gt;&gt; &gt; Hi benw,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; \
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&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; your netsniff-ng pcaps, but they're not \
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