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List:       security-basics
Subject:    RE: Detecting Network Sniffers ???
From:       "Amin Tora" <atora () EPLUS ! com>
Date:       2004-05-29 15:02:30
Message-ID: 8120CE7AE3FF964BA5BAAEBD7847DEF4010C5AE6 () EPMAIL ! epgpdom ! com
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>>Can somebody guide me on detecting a sniffer on my network. can i
>>still  detect a sniffer even if the computer running the sniffer has

>>disabled the  TCP/IP stack

>Just out of curiosity, how would someone be able to sniff if they
disabled the TCP/IP stack?
>Are you saying that they'd capture all ethernet frames, and then parse
those apart?  If the
>IP stack is disabled (and not replaced), then how would the IP packets
be parsed, or passed
>up to the application layer?

Quick Comment on this:

There are IDS systems that allow for this {i.e. ISS, Snort, etc..} and
there are also freeware kernel level drivers that replace the binding
and requirement for the OS TCP/IP and handle packets in raw format and
convert to readable data for the intended use...

The reason this works is that it doesn't rely on the TCP/IP stack,
rather the whole TCP/IP stack is 'replaced' for this purpose by it's own
"stack" that binds to the NIC.

See:

"3.1 How do I setup snort on a 'stealth' interface?" at
http://www.snort.org/docs/FAQ.txt
 This shows how to configure a stealth interface on {BSD,LINUX,WINx} for
SNORT

"Network Sensor Stealth Configuration", on pg. 157 at
http://documents.iss.net/literature/RealSecure/RS_NetSensor_IG_7.0.pdf
This shows how to configure ISS RealSecure in Stealth mode where the
listening interface has no protocol stack bound to it.



Amin Tora, CISSP, CHSP
Security Consultant
ePlus Technology Inc.
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Herndon, VA 20171
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email: atora-at-eplus.com

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