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Subject:    [jira] [Comment Edited] (AXIS2-6051) Axis2 Future Roadmap in keeping up with new Java Versions
From:       "Artur Linhart (Jira)" <jira () apache ! org>
Date:       2023-03-12 10:21:00
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Artur Linhart edited comment on AXIS2-6051 at 3/12/23 10:20 AM:
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As a long-year user of Axis2 I must say, we came on our projects to the final \
conclusion we have to remove completely the usage of Axis2 framework and replace it \
with Spring WS and one from the final reasons of this decision is the long-term lack \
of support of the jakarta.* libraries, since our business logic is based heavily on \
Spring and we have to move to newest Spring (6) version because of security reasons, \
in Spring 6 no old javax.* approach seems to be possible because a lot of conflicts \
coming from the parallel usage of jakarta.* and javax.* libraries in the same war \
file. I think, we will not be the only ones by this decision and it is unfortunate, \
Axis2 will from what I guess, really lose users in the long-term because this \
unfinished migration. I think, because of this operational risk, nobody will choose \
Axis2 in the today's versions for a new project.


was (Author: goodwin):
As an long-year user of Axis2 I must say, we came on our projects to the final \
conclusion we have to remove completely the usage of Axis2 framework and replace it \
with Spring WS and one from the final reasons of this decision is the long-term lack \
of support of the jakarta.* libraries, since our business logic is based heavily on \
Spring and we have to move to newest Spring (6) version because of security reasons, \
in Spring 6 no old javax.* approach seems to be possible because a lot of conflicts \
coming from the parallel usage of jakarta.* and javax.* libraries in the same war \
file. I think, we will not be the only ones by this decision and it is unfortunate, \
Axis2 will from what I guess, really lose users in the long-term because this \
unfinished migration. I think, because of this operational risk, nobody will choose \
Axis2 in the today's versions for a new project.

> Axis2 Future Roadmap in keeping up with new Java Versions
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Key: AXIS2-6051
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AXIS2-6051
> Project: Axis2
> Issue Type: Wish
> Affects Versions: 1.8.0
> Reporter: Jeff Thomas
> Priority: Major
> 
> Related to AXIS2-6035.
> Hi Robert/Andreas/Axis2 Support,
> just a general question about the realistic future of Axis2 (and by extension \
> Axiom/Rampart) in keeping up with the quickly changing Java releases. We are \
> getting a lot of push from our customers (and our own internal wish to use modern \
> java features) to move to java 17+ ... we are hitting more and more walls with \
>                 things like:
> * java modules
> * javax -> jakarta migration // this is a big one!
> ** jakarta.activation
> ** jakarta.validation
> ** jakarta.jms
> ** jakarta.mail
> ** jakarta.jws
> ** jakarta.jaxb
> ** ...
> * Tomcat 10 +  
> * and related stuff like
> ** ActiveMQ Artemis (jakarta.jms)
> ** removal of SecurityManager in JDK 19+  
> ** etc.
> The sort of general feeling is that unfortunately we are getting pulled towards a \
> state of complete incompatibility between Axis2 and current supported JVMs / other \
> Frameworks. Maybe you can give a bit of feedback about the roadmap for Axis2 and \
> addressing the growing gap in dependencies?   (and would welcome any info about \
> Axiom/Rampart along the same lines).   Good or bad news doesn't matter...would \
> appreciate having some concrete statement to address our own internal planning \
> about the way forward. :) Appreciate any info you can provide.



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