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From: "Marc Piulachs" <marc.piulachs () live ! com>
Date: 2008-06-23 12:33:49
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It should as it's 100% pure managed code (no PInvoke, not even Windows.Forms) anyway \
it doesn't matter.. the C++ implementation is here to stay
/Marc
From: Eduardo Menezes
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 1:38 PM
To: ReactOS General List
Subject: Re: [ros-general] rbuild related stuff
Important question: Does it run in Linux with Mono?
2008/6/22 Marc Piulachs <marc.piulachs@live.com>:
Hi All,
I haven't been contributing much code to the reactos C++ build engine (RBUILD) \
lately but I have been improving my own C# implementation of it. Since it's truly OOP \
and well designed adding and testing new features is easier than with our buggy and \
messy rbuild.
I use my C# implementation as a playground. My intention is to slowly extend rbuild \
to turn it in to a build and configuration engine (not only generate the makefile but \
also the registry and setup files depending on the modules being included).My build \
engine partly does it so I wanted to show some of the advantages and new features I \
will be adding to RBUILD in the following months. Some of them are already \
implemented on my rbuild branch (waiting for Colin to help me merging it back to \
trunk) while others are still to be coded.
Interesting things to see:
- We have arround 800 modules (including tests)
- Diferent Bootable ISO images with diferent modules and default settings are being \
build from the same unmodified codebase. see \
http://www.marcpiulachs.com/reactos/
- Updated reports : http://www.marcpiulachs.com/reactos/core/default.htm
- Automatic dependecy tracker reports .See for example : \
http://www.marcpiulachs.com/reactos/core/ntoskrnl.htm
- My testing reveals that the minium amount of modules required to produce a \
bootable ReactOS ISO is currently about 190. see : \
http://www.marcpiulachs.com/reactos/core/platform.htm. I have been unable to boot \
with less modules , by tweaking the registry it can probably be \
reduced even more.
- Even our OS is quite modular we make alot of bad assumptions in our code. (We are \
not microsoft , we don't have to package our OS in a determinate manner due to \
obscure marketing reasons. some day reactos should be able to run on a standard pc , \
on a ARM based device with 64Mb of ram or as headless network router with no GUI at \
all so don't assume notepad or application XYZ to be present unless it's a *core* \
component)
- All Iso images are created with an unmodifed code base except for two bugs I \
fixed in syssetup and setupapi
- Our modules are not very configurable, we should use more defines to turn on and \
off not desired code at build time. (see linux kernel and xconfig)
I will share more information about how these images are being generated in case \
anyone is interested and like always, I'm open to your ideas and constructive \
comments!
Regards,
Marc
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It should as it's 100% pure managed code
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>/Marc</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=companheiro.vermelho@gmail.com
href="mailto:companheiro.vermelho@gmail.com">Eduardo Menezes</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 23, 2008 1:38 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=ros-general@reactos.org
href="mailto:ros-general@reactos.org">ReactOS General List</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [ros-general] rbuild related stuff</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Important question: Does it run in Linux with Mono?<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>2008/6/22 Marc Piulachs <<A
href="mailto:marc.piulachs@live.com">marc.piulachs@live.com</A>>:<BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi All,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I haven't been contributing much code to the
reactos C++ build engine (RBUILD) lately but I have been improving my own C#
implementation of it. Since it's truly OOP and well designed adding and
testing new features is easier than with our buggy and messy rbuild.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I use my C# implementation as a playground. My
intention is to slowly extend rbuild to turn it in to a build and
configuration engine (not only generate the makefile but also the registry and
setup files depending on the modules being included).My build engine partly
does it so I wanted to show some of the advantages and new features I will be
adding to RBUILD in the following months. Some of them are already implemented
on my rbuild branch (waiting for Colin to help me merging it back to trunk)
while others are still to be coded.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Interesting things to see:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- We have arround 800 modules (including
tests)<BR>- Diferent Bootable ISO images with diferent modules and default
settings are being build from the same unmodified codebase. see <A
title="http://www.marcpiulachs.com/reactos/ CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="http://www.marcpiulachs.com/reactos/"
target=_blank>http://www.marcpiulachs.com/reactos/</A><BR>- Updated reports :
<A
title="http://www.marcpiulachs.com/reactos/core/default.htm CTRL + Click \
to follow link" href="http://www.marcpiulachs.com/reactos/core/default.htm"
target=_blank>http://www.marcpiulachs.com/reactos/core/default.htm</A><BR>-
Automatic dependecy tracker reports .See for example : <A
title="http://www.marcpiulachs.com/reactos/core/ntoskrnl.htm CTRL + Click \
to follow link" href="http://www.marcpiulachs.com/reactos/core/ntoskrnl.htm"
target=_blank>http://www.marcpiulachs.com/reactos/core/ntoskrnl.htm</A><BR>-
My testing reveals that the minium amount of modules required to produce a
bootable ReactOS ISO is currently about 190. see : <A
title="http://www.marcpiulachs.com/reactos/core/platform.htm CTRL + Click \
to follow link" href="http://www.marcpiulachs.com/reactos/core/platform.htm"
target=_blank>http://www.marcpiulachs.com/reactos/core/platform.htm</A>. I
have been unable to boot with less modules , by tweaking the registry it can
probably be reduced even more.<BR>- Even our OS is quite modular we make alot
of bad assumptions in our code. (We are not microsoft , we don't have to
package our OS in a determinate manner due to obscure marketing reasons.
some day reactos should be able to run on a standard pc , on a ARM based
device with 64Mb of ram or as headless network router with no GUI at all so
don't assume notepad or application XYZ to be present unless it's a *core*
component)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- All Iso images are created with an unmodifed
code base except for two bugs I fixed in syssetup and setupapi<BR>- Our
modules are not very configurable, we should use more defines to turn on and
off not desired code at build time. (see linux kernel and
xconfig)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>I will share more information about how
these images are being generated in case anyone is interested and like
always, I'm open to your ideas and constructive comments!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Regards,<BR><FONT
color=#888888>Marc</FONT></DIV></DIV><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Ros-general \
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href="http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general"
target=_blank>http://www.reactos.org/mailman/listinfo/ros-general</A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR \
clear=all><BR>-- <BR>Eduardo<BR>"Toda Revolução é IMPOSSÍVEL até que se torne
INEVITÁVEL!!!" (Leon Trotsky)
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