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From: Van Dillon <vandillon () gmail ! com>
Date: 2013-12-03 17:58:07
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Can you discern between JMS temporary queues and regular queues? I have
seen temporary queues show up as resources only to become unavailable.
-Van
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Thomas Segismont <tsegismo@redhat.com>wrot=
e:
> My opinion is that Query Cache resources should not be auto discovered
> whereas JMS queues should be.
>
> Waiting for more input before taking action.
>
> Le 29/11/2013 12:49, Michael Burman a =E9crit :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Costel, on the other hand, JMS queues and their changing sizes are the
>> only thing we really monitor in our environment. That's a quick way to
>> find out if something is wrong, when queue's message amounts keep
>> growing (or a certain service shows such behaviour).
>>
>> There's no silver bullet to keep just certain resources.
>>
>> - Micke
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Costel Cosman <costelcsmn@yahoo.ro
>> <mailto:costelcsmn@yahoo.ro>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Thomas,
>>
>> I was thinking the same thing with other resources too, like the
>> EJBs, JMS queues, etc.
>>
>> In our company we use RHQ to monitor production JBoss servers with a
>> lot of EJBs but no one is really interested to monitor these EJBs or
>> at least they are interested in monitoring only some of them.
>> These useless resources bring unnecessary load on both RHQ server
>> and agent. By default they are checked for the availability and have
>> some metrics enabled.
>>
>> An idea would be to have a lazy discovery for these resources - at
>> request, maybe some configuration in the Connection Settings of the
>> parent resource to enable the discovery of such child resources,
>> maybe define a regexp pattern for the resource names we are
>> interested in.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Costel
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> ------------
>> *De la:* Thomas Segismont <tsegismo@redhat.com
>> <mailto:tsegismo@redhat.com>>
>> *C=E3tre:* rhq-devel@lists.fedorahosted.org
>> <mailto:rhq-devel@lists.fedorahosted.org>
>> *Trimis:* Vineri, 29 Noiembrie 2013 12:27:48
>> *Subiect:* AS7 plugin: Hibernate Query Cache resource type
>>
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I fixed "Bug 1033130 - [AS7] Exception during discovery of Query Cac=
he
>> resources of RHQ Server resource" this week.
>>
>> So what? Well now if you inventory RHQ server resource you get more
>> than
>> 2000 query cache resources showing up. Which of course costs you CPU
>> and
>> memory.
>>
>> You can of course just ignore this resource type (via the admin
>> pages).
>>
>> So I was wondering: shouldn't we change such resource types to no
>> longer
>> auto discover them but only allow manual add?
>>
>> Opinions?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Thomas
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<div dir="ltr">Can you discern between JMS temporary queues and regular queues? I \
have seen temporary queues show up as resources only to become \
unavailable.<div><br></div><div>-Van<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div \
class="gmail_quote">
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Thomas Segismont <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:tsegismo@redhat.com" target="_blank">tsegismo@redhat.com</a>></span> \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px \
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
My opinion is that Query Cache resources should not be auto discovered whereas JMS \
queues should be.<br> <br>
Waiting for more input before taking action.<br>
<br>
Le 29/11/2013 12:49, Michael Burman a écrit :<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div> Hi,<br>
<br>
Costel, on the other hand, JMS queues and their changing sizes are the<br>
only thing we really monitor in our environment. That's a quick way to<br>
find out if something is wrong, when queue's message amounts keep<br>
growing (or a certain service shows such behaviour).<br>
<br>
There's no silver bullet to keep just certain resources.<br>
<br>
- Micke<br>
<br>
<br>
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Costel Cosman <<a \
href="mailto:costelcsmn@yahoo.ro" \
target="_blank">costelcsmn@yahoo.ro</a><br></div><div> <mailto:<a \
href="mailto:costelcsmn@yahoo.ro" target="_blank">costelcsmn@yahoo.ro</a>>> \
wrote:<br> <br>
Hi Thomas,<br>
<br>
I was thinking the same thing with other resources too, like the<br>
EJBs, JMS queues, etc.<br>
<br>
In our company we use RHQ to monitor production JBoss servers with a<br>
lot of EJBs but no one is really interested to monitor these EJBs or<br>
at least they are interested in monitoring only some of them.<br>
These useless resources bring unnecessary load on both RHQ server<br>
and agent. By default they are checked for the availability and have<br>
some metrics enabled.<br>
<br>
An idea would be to have a lazy discovery for these resources - at<br>
request, maybe some configuration in the Connection Settings of the<br>
parent resource to enable the discovery of such child resources,<br>
maybe define a regexp pattern for the resource names we are<br>
interested in.<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Costel<br>
<br>
<br></div>
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*De la:* Thomas Segismont <<a href="mailto:tsegismo@redhat.com" \
target="_blank">tsegismo@redhat.com</a><br> <mailto:<a \
href="mailto:tsegismo@redhat.com" \
target="_blank">tsegismo@redhat.com</a>>><br>
*Către:* <a href="mailto:rhq-devel@lists.fedorahosted.org" \
target="_blank">rhq-devel@lists.fedorahosted.<u></u>org</a><br> <mailto:<a \
href="mailto:rhq-devel@lists.fedorahosted.org" \
target="_blank">rhq-devel@lists.<u></u>fedorahosted.org</a>><br>
*Trimis:* Vineri, 29 Noiembrie 2013 12:27:48<br>
*Subiect:* AS7 plugin: Hibernate Query Cache resource type<div><br>
<br>
Hi everyone,<br>
<br>
I fixed "Bug 1033130 - [AS7] Exception during discovery of Query Cache<br>
resources of RHQ Server resource" this week.<br>
<br>
So what? Well now if you inventory RHQ server resource you get more<br>
than<br>
2000 query cache resources showing up. Which of course costs you CPU<br>
and<br>
memory.<br>
<br>
You can of course just ignore this resource type (via the admin pages).<br>
<br>
So I was wondering: shouldn't we change such resource types to no<br>
longer<br>
auto discover them but only allow manual add?<br>
<br>
Opinions?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Thomas<br>
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