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Subject: [Razor-users] RE: Reporting Spam Mails and a few question
From: "Vahric MUHTARYAN" <vahric () doruk ! net ! tr>
Date: 2006-02-19 12:32:17
Message-ID: auto-000005136885 () doruk ! net ! tr
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From: Vahric MUHTARYAN [mailto:vahric@doruk.net.tr]
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 2:30 PM
To: 'razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net'
Subject: Reporting Spam Mails and a few question
Hi Everybody,
I have a some question about Spam Reporting ....
1) Our clients are using Outlook and Outlook Express and if they catch
some spam they are sending me with eml format . I tested its same with rfc
822 format and copy all lines to one file and report to razor . Some time
because of forward some additonal part can be added then I'm copying
Original section it's looks like same rfc 822 . I want to ask is it true
What I did ? I putted 5.eml file Which I selected only Orginal Message
section . can somebody correct me or confirm me ?
2) Now I will start to send spams which couldn't recognized by razor ,
I know trust mechanism is working like - if somebody sending too much
correct spam mail then he/she more trustable " but I want to know my send
mails are tested by system and it's marked and added to catalog server or
not ? How can I know this ?
3) Also I wonder one thing for example my send mail is %100 spam but
no one send or not too much people send it like a spam or because of
spamassassin or SURBL matching that mail a spam because of this nobody send
it to razor then what is the manner of razor system ? Because I send a mail
for it's a spam ? but no one need to send mail to razor for mail is a spam !
4) Ýs there any place to watch my send mails and my status , I am
trusted one ? or not !
Vahric
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'> Vahric
MUHTARYAN [mailto:vahric@doruk.net.tr] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, February 19, 2006
2:30 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
'razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Reporting Spam Mails and
a few question</span></font><span lang=EN-US \
style='mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Hi Everybody, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I have a some question about Spam Reporting .... \
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 \
lfo2; tab-stops:list 36.0pt'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
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style='mso-list:Ignore'>1)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> \
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Our clients are using Outlook and Outlook \
Express and if they catch some spam they are sending me with eml format . I tested \
its same with rfc 822 format and copy all lines to one file and report to razor . \
Some time because of forward some additonal part can be added then I’m copying \
Original section it’s looks like same rfc 822 .<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> \
</span>I want to ask is it true What I did ? I putted 5.eml file Which I selected \
only Orginal Message section . can somebody correct me or confirm me \
?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 \
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style='mso-list:Ignore'>2)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> \
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Now I will start to send spams which \
couldn’t recognized by razor , I know trust mechanism is working like - if \
somebody sending too much correct spam mail then he/she more trustable “ but I \
want to know my send mails are tested by system and it’s marked and added to \
catalog server or not ? How can I know this ? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 \
lfo2; tab-stops:list 36.0pt'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
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style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> \
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Also I wonder one thing for example my \
send mail is %100 spam but no one send or not too much people send it like a spam or \
because of spamassassin or SURBL matching that mail a spam because of this nobody \
send it to razor then<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>what is the manner of \
razor system ? Because I send a mail for it’s a spam ? but no one need to send \
mail to razor for mail is a spam ! <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 \
lfo2; tab-stops:list 36.0pt'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial'><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>4)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> \
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 face=Arial><span \
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Ýs there any place to watch my send mails \
and my status , I am trusted one ? or not ! <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span \
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Vahric<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Potts
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