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List:       qubes-users
Subject:    Re: [qubes-users] Installation Problem
From:       Stuart Perkins <perkins.stuart () gmail ! com>
Date:       2018-10-30 11:58:21
Message-ID: 20181030065821.4e07e89f () gmail ! com
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 15:32:41 -0400
Andy Powell <afpjr0@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well that clears it up! Thanks!!!
> 
> Very surprising...guess I'll go to another distro. Bye Qubes!
> 
> > On Oct 29, 2018, at 2:51 PM, Fidel Ramos <f@fidelramos.net> wrote:
> > 
> > ------- Original Message -------  
> > > On Monday, October 29, 2018 6:20 PM, Andy Powell <afpjr0@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hello Qubes group!
> > > 
> > > I'm trying to install Qubes but it fails after "Test this media & install Qubes \
> > > R4.0" at "Loading initrd.img" 
> > > I'm on a 2012 MacBook Pro, running Parallels (which I guess may be the issue, \
> > > as 100% of your documentation refers to VirtualBox...do you support other \
> > > hypervisors?) 
> > > I've followed everything as best I can and am stuck in an infinite loop. No \
> > > issues running other major OS VMs (Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, various Win, etc) 
> > > Please help! Thank you!
> > > 
> > > —Andy  
> > 
> > Running QubesOS inside a virtual machine is not supported, and as you found out \
> > it won't work in most configurations. 
> > If you want to try out Qubes in your machine you could install it into a USB \
> > drive or USB HDD (i.e. put the installer into a USB drive, boot the installer, \
> > then install into a *different* USB drive). It will be slower, but you can see if \
> > it works with your hardware.  
> 

Qubes is, essentially, a Xen hypervisor (bare metal virtual machine host).  It has \
added complexity to provide a more complete separation of programs and data, and \
further compartmentalize different areas of sensitivity such as general web browsing, \
password safe keeping, etc.  You can configure different application VMS for \
different purposes and keep your information more secure than even a general virtual \
machine host such as Unix/VirtualBox or Windows/VMWare.

Attempting to run a Xen hypervisor inside of a VirtualBox or VMWare VM is illogical.

Qubes is not just another flavor of Linux.

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