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List:       qubes-users
Subject:    [qubes-users] Re: New Qubes Website/Wiki -- CSS desginer wanted!
From:       Joanna Rutkowska <joanna () invisiblethingslab ! com>
Date:       2015-03-30 14:38:21
Message-ID: 20150330143820.GE7354 () work-mutt
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On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 07:34:10AM -0700, Benjamin Smith wrote:
> Hey Everyone,
> 
> I have some availability this week to work on the wiki design. Just looking 
> for an official thumbs up from ITL, and perhaps a bit of direction with 
> regard to technical specifications and feedback on my suggestions above. 
> 
> To the ITL staff, I'd be happy to setup a meeting or correspond via e-mail 
> to discuss further. I think it would be good to make sure we are on the 
> same page prior to starting work. E-mail is probably the easiest, but I can 
> be available via chat/phone/video as well.
> 
> 

Just send a pull requests with your patches on top of what we already have.
Make the site look nice, like github.com help. I don't see there is much to
discuss there over phone ;)

Thanks,
joanna.

> On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 5:53:02 PM UTC-4, Benjamin Smith wrote:
> > 
> > With regard to the aesthetic style, I think Joanna pointed out a great 
> > example in the GitHub documentation. GitHub did a great job of maintaining 
> > a simplistic, usable interface that still looks professional. A few other 
> > examples I would like to reference include:
> > 
> > https://pillow.readthedocs.org/index.html
> > https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.7/
> > http://getbootstrap.com/getting-started/
> > 
> > From a usability perspective, one of the best features of the Django site 
> > is the capability to switch between documentation versions using an easily 
> > recognizable select box. Upon selecting a different version of Django, the 
> > content updates, but the layout/aesthetics remain the same. The Django 
> > version is also incorporated into the URL structure of the site. 
> > 
> > The "readthedocs" page provides a static menu with scrolling content that 
> > makes it really convenient to quickly scan through pages and jump across 
> > different sections of the site. They also did an excellent job of color 
> > matching and font spacing. It's very easy on the eyes when searching for 
> > just the right syntax at 3:00 AM. 
> > 
> > Finally, the Bootstrap documentation is really superb all the way around. 
> > Good use of navigational elements/layout, excellent font choices, and a 
> > subtle, static menu that scrolls down the page with the user as they read.
> > 
> > It's important to note that all three of the above layouts are also fully 
> > responsive, although the readthedocs page could perform a bit better at 
> > wider resolutions.
> > 
> > With regard to the technical aspects of this discussion, I tend to agree 
> > with the sentiment of making the documentation site either sans Javascript 
> > entirely or just JavaScript optional. My personal preference would be to 
> > make everything usable with JS completely disabled, and then progressively 
> > enhance key portions of the site for usability with vanilla JavaScript. No 
> > monolithic frameworks like Bootstrap or libraries like jQuery. I think this 
> > would significantly limit any potential concerns regarding JS 
> > vulnerabilities. For the record, however, any of the above referenced 
> > layouts could be built using just HTML/CSS. Ultimately, this technical 
> > specification is a call for ITL.
> > 
> > In any case, I've spent the past decade working in web development/design, 
> > so I'd love to help out with the wiki layout if you're still looking for 
> > designerish people. Just let me know how we could potentially move forward. 
> > If this were a commercial project, my next step would be a discovery call 
> > followed by wireframes or Photoshop mockups. Also, this is my first time 
> > using Google Groups, so I apologize in advance for any etiquette/formatting 
> > faux pas. 
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> > On Saturday, March 21, 2015 at 5:35:50 AM UTC-4, Joanna Rutkowska wrote:
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> > > So, the guys have been working hard recently to convert our old Wiki to a 
> > > markdownd-based git-hosted new Website/Wiki, that can be preview 
> > > currently 
> > > at: 
> > > 
> > > https://www.qubes-os.org/wiki/ 
> > > 
> > > The only problem is... it looks so ugly and unpolished CSS/design-wise. 
> > > If 
> > > anybody from the community could offer us help in this respect, it would 
> > > be 
> > > just great and we could complete the switchover. 
> > > 
> > > Thanks! 
> > > joanna. 
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