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List:       qubes-devel
Subject:    Re: [qubes-devel] Eventual Xen alternatives
From:       viq <vicviq () gmail ! com>
Date:       2018-04-04 20:36:35
Message-ID: CALF8MVHEonXpARkP7XENJADaWjz7pg9wCiKcHsPnpr7=emscmw () mail ! gmail ! com
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On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, 07:12 Scott Tankard, <sptankard@gmail.com> wrote:

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> 
> There are basically very few "industrial-grade" hypervisors (that have a
> large enough user base, developer base, and socioeconomic pressure and
> resources to maintain them secure and featureful...). There's VMWare, Xen
> and KVM. You could maybe add Hyper-V and Bhyve. VMWare and Hyper-V aren't
> libre software, so they're out. That leaves Xen, KVM, and Bhyve.
> 

What about OpenBSD's VMM?

One thing I do not know (but that is important to look at) is the security
> history/track record of KVM vs Xen with regard to CVEs, etc. (Bearing in
> mind that Linux kernel should be removed from the equation.)
> 

Especially with the above ;)

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<div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, 4 Apr \
2018, 07:12 Scott Tankard, &lt;<a \
href="mailto:sptankard@gmail.com">sptankard@gmail.com</a>&gt; \
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br> <br>
There are basically very few &quot;industrial-grade&quot; hypervisors (that have a \
large enough user base, developer base, and socioeconomic pressure and resources to \
maintain them secure and featureful...). There&#39;s VMWare, Xen and KVM. You could \
maybe add Hyper-V and Bhyve. VMWare and Hyper-V aren&#39;t libre software, so \
they&#39;re out. That leaves Xen, KVM, and Bhyve.<br></blockquote></div></div><div \
dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">What about OpenBSD&#39;s VMM?</div><div \
dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> One thing I do not know (but that is important to look at) \
is the security history/track record of KVM vs Xen with regard to CVEs, etc. (Bearing \
in mind that Linux kernel should be removed from the \
equation.)<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div \
dir="auto">Especially with the above ;)</div><div dir="auto"><div \
class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> </blockquote></div></div></div>

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